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|May-15-08|| ||Unrated07: Is this an alternative solution?
28. Bxh3 - Nxe4+
29. Kh1 - Nxf2+
30. Qxf2 - Qxf2
And we are basically back to the original games possibilities.
Any thing wrong with my logic, or is this working?
|May-15-08|| ||arnaud1959: Quite easy. When I saw the diagram I thought it was a KID but amazingly it's a Dutch.|
|May-15-08|| ||gtgloner: Got the right move, but missed the correct follow-up.|
|May-15-08|| ||johnlspouge: Thursday (Medium): Black to play and win.
Material: Even. Black has built an impressive K-side attack on a local spatial advantage, and the White position is cramped and passive. The Rh8 and Qh4 form a potential battery on the h-file opposite Kh1, after Nh5 moves. The Rg6 is on a semi-open g-file, although Ng5 presently obscures it. In addition, both Bd7 and Be7 have access to an open diagonal, again presently obscured. The White Ra1, Bc1, and Nc3 are unavailable for defense, so Black has an overwhelming local superiority and can sacrifice if necessary to focus the attack.
Candidates (26…): Ng3+
26…Ng3+ (threatening 27…Qxh2#)
27.Kg1 Nh3+ 28.Bxh3 Ne2+ 29.Kh1 Rg1#
It is surprising that the position is a fast forced mate, and White has only one choice on how he will die.
|May-15-08|| ||johnlspouge: <<dzechiel> wrote: I like this combination so much, I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that it IS black's move, and that the "White to play" caption is a typo.>|
I was up late last night but went to bed after I saw the original posting, thinking that chessgames.com would discover their error before I awoke.
I never go out on a limb, unless I have to ;>)
|May-15-08|| ||tjshann: I saw the original posting "White to Play" last night, pondered a bit and went to bed. I was unfamiliar with this particular game, but did wonder how Horowitz was going to be able to beat Fine in that position and shared the suspicions of others that Fine had all the threats.|
|May-15-08|| ||TheaN: 4/4
Woah, easy Thursday, but I don't mind.
26....Ng3+ is mate in four, not so strange, though. White coordinates completely wrong.
27.Kg1 (Nxg3 Qxh2#) Nh3+ 28.Bxh3 Ne2++ 29.Kh1 Rg1#, the double check is probably the key move.
|May-15-08|| ||zenpharaohs: Wow, this was incredibly hard. Then this morning I see it has changed to "Black to Play"...|
|May-15-08|| ||lost in space: My post 10 hours ago was deleted from whomever whyever (maybe from chessgames due to the mistake about who to move)|
What I stated there was:
Position is looking similar to a position from the kings indian defence (but with a pawn on g7).
26... ♘g3+ ♔g1 (♘xg3 is mate in one) 27. ♘h3+ (maybe even ♘xf3 is possible?!) ♗xh3 28. ♘e2+ and I saw no defence for White.
|May-15-08|| ||kevin86: I missed this one;the only try i had was Qxh2+?,of course,countered by Nxh2. I thought there was a win in there somewhere,but I couldn't find it. :(|
The finish was elegant: After 29 ♔h1 ♖g1#. Funny,white could capture the knight in three ways or interpose on the rook check in four ways--alas,the only move to counter bOTH checks is ♔h1.
|May-15-08|| ||sleepyirv: For a Thursday puzzle that was pretty easy. Blacks domination on Kingside cannot be ignored.|
|May-15-08|| ||YouRang: Got it. The idea of attacking with the knights to open files for the rooks is quite obvious. The first move is easy: 26...Ng3+! delivers check and opens the h-file for the rook, pinning Ph3. Even better, it can't be taken due to 27.Nxg3 Qxh2#.|
So white must play 27.Kg1, and the next move is pretty clear also: 27...Nh3+ opening the g-file for the other rook and forcing 28.Bxh3.
Here is really the first time we have to think -- but not too hard: Moving the g3 knight is sure tempting due to the discovered check. My first idea was 28...Nxe4 winning the queen (29.Bg2 Nxd2) which is probably good enough. But one should always look at <double-check> opportunities -- they are often juicy and deadly.
Here, considering the double-check is rewarded by finding a pretty forced mate: 28...Ne2++!! 29.Kh2 Rg1#
Excellent puzzle. :-)
|May-15-08|| ||SpoiltVictorianChild: Found this pretty easily; too easily for a Thursday I think.|
|May-15-08|| ||patzer2: For today's medium difficulty thursday puzzle solution, Reuben Fine finds a mating attack with 26...Ng3+! The finale with a double check and mate is pointed out by <YouRang> above, and of course 27. Nxf3 loses on the spot to 27...Qxh2#.|
|May-15-08|| ||patzer2: Fine's clever 23...Rh6!! maneuver is instructive, since after 24. Re2 Rg6 Black is clearly winning.|
|May-15-08|| ||boz: Not difficult (the hard part is getting such a position) but *God* it must have felt good to play.|
|May-15-08|| ||Amarande: Note the lack of good defenses as well. Some even open up interesting new variations e.g. an indifferent move on 26.|
For instance if an indifferent move 26, instead of 26 Rf2, such as 26 Bb2:
26 Bb2 Ng3+ 27 Kg1 and now Black has choice of sacs (27 ... Nxf3 doesn't work in the main game BTW, on account of 28 Rxf3! and Black has no good continuation. Of course if 28 Bxf3 Ne2++ as usual.), not only does the game continuation still work, but also 27 ... Nxf3+! which mates as fast, and is remarkable in that the double check motif turns up here too: 28 Kf2 (28 Bxf3 Nxe2++ as usual) Nh1++! 29 Kxf3 Bg4#.
Other possible tries for White, also insufficient:
* Sacrificing the Knight to make room for the King: 26 Ng3 Nxg3+ 27 Kg1 Qxh2+ 28 Kf2 Nh3+ 29 Ke1 Qg1+ and mate next move.
* Sacrificing the Bishop to allow a second rank defense: 26 Bh3 and Black just ignores White's feeble plea with 26 ... Nxf3, White cannot both prevent 27 ... Rg1# and save his Queen.
* Flight of the King: 26 Kg1 and Black's Knight serves the divorce papers with 26 ... Nxf3+.
* Defending f3 with the Queen rather than the Rook (26 Qd3) leads to the same mate as in the game.
Probably White's last hope to hold out was 24 Ne2 (instead of 24 Re2), protecting g1 from the various Rook mates. But even here Black has such resources as 24 ... Nh3+ 25 Bxh3 Bxh3 etc., retaining a powerful attack while White's defensive abilities are as weak as ever ...
|May-15-08|| ||stacase: Got it! Move for move (-:
The damage a team of two knights can inflict is just incredible. All the supporting pieces just sit back and watch the carnage!
|May-15-08|| ||234: Wednesday puzzle <18. ?> May-14-08 I Gudju vs Bogdanovsky, 1929|
|May-16-08|| ||SuperPatzer77: <Amarande> <26 Bb2 Ng3+ 27 Kg1 and now Black has choice of sacs (27 ... Nxf3 doesn't work in the main game BTW, on account of 28 Rxf3! and Black has no good continuation. Of course if 28 Bxf3 Ne2++ as usual.), not only does the game continuation still work, but also 27 ... Nxf3+! which mates as fast, and is remarkable in that the double check motif turns up here too: 28 Kf2 (28 Bxf3 Nxe2++ as usual) Nh1++! 29 Kxf3 Bg4#.> |
<Amarande> If 26 Bb2 then 26...Ng3+!, 27. Kg1 Nh3+!, 28. Bxh3 Nxe2++!, 29. Kh1 Rg1# so, 27...Nh3+! is much better than 27...Nxf3+.
|Sep-21-11|| ||FSR: A Fine attack.|
|Oct-11-14|| ||Mr Bigz: These kingside assaults in semi-closed positions are some of the best attacks to be found.|
|Jan-23-19|| ||HarryP: This game contributed to my love for the Dutch Defense. Fine's 8th move is questionable, actually, and Horowitz should have replied 9 d5, which is what Fine himself played when he had White against Bogolyubov at Nottingham 1936.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||gezafan: The game has similarities to a king's indian.|
|Aug-06-19|| ||gosusensei: a dutch attack!|
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