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|Jan-22-08|| ||Toastman: <RookFile> what makes you say i set up the wrong position? That fits exactly with my line.|
|Jan-22-08|| ||RookFile: <Toastman: <RookFile> what makes you say i set up the wrong position? That fits exactly with my line.>|
Well, I'm looking at the diagram, which represents the position on the board after 39.... Kd3. According to you, after <any> white 40th move, black plays ....d4. I don't see any pawn that can go to d4, do you?
|Jan-22-08|| ||Toastman: ahhh, i unleashed the dyslexia and transposed d for g, all d4's should be g4's.|
|May-20-08|| ||daniellovesbeer: why not instead of 17.. Rd7
17..Kf6 because of 18Bd4# Rxd4
19 cxd4 a5!
|May-20-08|| ||sneaky pete: If 17... Kf6? 18.Bg5+ .. wins.|
|May-27-09|| ||kurtrichards: Simple.|
|May-29-09|| ||Eyal: <It's a wonder Fischer won this endgame, because after move 14 his pawn structure is ugly enough to be a modern art masterpiece.....>|
Position after 14.bxc3:
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In MSMG, Fischer comments after 15.Rb1! as follows: <I found that, horrible as White's pawn structure may be, Black can't exploit it because he'll be unable to develop his K-side normally.>
And his evaluation turns out to be correct. Allowing the white rook to come into play on the b-file by 13…Nxc3 is apparently too high a price to pay for damaging White's pawn structure on the Q-side, especially combined with Euwe's ineffective Rd8-d7 maneuver. This game did a lot to discredit the move, whereas 13…Qd7 is still considered perfectly playable for Black in this line (see Opening Explorer).
|May-30-09|| ||HeMateMe: I like the way the 17-year-old Fischer allows the broken kingside pawns, to get the initiative on the queen side. It sort of "breaks the rules", but Fisher gets great counter play.|
I usualey get killed when i allow the broken kingside pawn structure.
|Jun-19-09|| ||shakespeare: If you look at the position at move 19. Euwe has got a much better pawn structure but two locked pieces - and Fischer ecpertly exploits this weakness starting with 21. Rb8|
|Jul-28-10|| ||tentsewang: WoW!!! Fantastic play by young Fischer, a win against a former world champion is a great deal and Fischer managed to crush him.|
|Oct-16-10|| ||sevenseaman: Fischer at 17, putting it across to Euwe an ex-World Champion is Champaigne stuff.|
|Dec-23-10|| ||kardopov: These are guts and nerves displayed by the great Fischer! Allowing pawn disruption for just minimal advantage is a mark of a true fighter. Not so many chessplayers are of this kind.|
|Oct-30-11|| ||sevenseaman: <36. Be5> What a beauty to guarantee promotion! Fischer was a genius in positional play.|
|Nov-17-11|| ||juan31: En este Juego de Olimpiada esta reflejado el Gran Robert James Fischer, quiero ver a muchos de sus criticos jugar al menos a una cuarta parte de su genialidad|
|Jan-29-12|| ||shakespeare: as far as I can see, Euwe underestimated his weakness of underdevelopment and started exchanging his active pieces. With every exchange his disadvantage grew. Would he kept pieces on board, develop and coordinate, he may have even won the because of his better pawn structure|
|Jun-26-12|| ||Zugzwangovich: Ray Keene comments that 32 Rb5+ was "White's only error in this game. It is strange that, both at the board and in his later analysis, Bobby overlooked an instant win--32 Rd6+! Kc5 33 Rd7."|
|Aug-29-12|| ||TheFocus: This is game 20 in Fischer's <My 60 Memorable Games>.|
|Nov-11-12|| ||danigza: I agree with Zugzwangovich. If Black plays 34 Bd4 then 35 Rc7+ wins after Kb4 36 Rxc3 Bxc3 37 a7, or Kxc3 37 Be5! as in the game.|
|Jan-19-13|| ||offramp: I'd like to see a long Houdini-analysis of this game from move 15 up to about 35.
Can anyone help? Any strong engine would do!|
|Jan-19-13|| ||Joshka: Fischer in his notes from 2007 writes in response to 13...Nxc3
"13...Qd7 14. Nxd5+ Qxd5 ( not 14...exd5 15. Qd3! f6 16. Be3 with a clear advantage, improving over the line from MSMG) 15. Bg5+ f6 16. Qxd5 exd5 17. Be3 Ke6 18. 0-0-0 Bb4 19. Rd3 Rhd8 20. a3 Rac8+ 21. Kb1 Bc5 22. Re1 Kd6 was played out to a 99-move draw in Karpov-Kramnik, Linares, 1993, even though the position is completely lifeless already. Karpov missed 23. Bf4+ Kc6 24. Re6+ which should have motivated Kramnik to draw much sooner, allowing for needed rest in such a tournament. The point: 24...Kd7 25. Re4! d4 (else Rxd5+) and both sides are blunted by the immoveable obstacle."|
|Jan-19-13|| ||Shams: <Joshka> If you're going to quote from M61MG, at least say that's what you are doing so it's not quite so misleading.|
|Jan-11-14|| ||SeanAzarin: Fischer on the game: "After the game Euwe showed me a cute trap he might have played for -- and almost fainted when I fell into it! The line arises after 32... K-B3 33 R-R5 B-Q5 and he asked, `What do you do now?' I looked a few seconds and played 34 B-K5? whereupon he uncorked 34... R-B4! which leads to a draw. Upon reconsideration, however, simply 34 K-K2 wins. It's these tidbits that you remember best."|
|Mar-22-14|| ||SpiritedReposte: Bobby' s opening looks bad from a pawn structure standpoint but Euwe's pieces are tangled up and the a-pawn proves decisive.|
|Mar-27-14|| ||thegoodanarchist: A fantastic endgame by Fischer. I would have thought, with his pawn structure, White would be toast against a former WC.|
Just shows how far away I am from chess genius. At least I can look over the games of geniuses here at cg.com...
|Mar-27-14|| ||Petrosianic: <Shams>: <If you're going to quote from M61MG, at least say that's what you are doing so it's not quite so misleading.>|
There's no point in such a request when being misleading is the whole point. I wouldn't worry, most know Joshka well enough to know that he can't be taken seriously on the subject of Fischer.
For those who aren't aware, of course you're right, Fischer didn't write the quoted text.
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