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| Oct-22-07 |
| juan kloostra: Wonderful game by the man....Chess has become STALE now,a bit like fresh bread,tasted after a few days.Just try
to find something like that now...... I believe that computers are going to destroy more than just a chess game. |
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| Jun-06-08 |
| Zickzack: The combination starting with 26. ... Re3 is beautiful indeed. All analysis on this site centers on it. But with all the comments starting on Alekhine's play after 15. .... Qc8, his claiming (assumedly as a trick) repetition of position, Reti resisting with 20. Bh1 - which is given an question mark -, there is something missing. After, 25. e4 Nb6 26. Qd3, White has the superior position. Some grandmasters at least mention this line, but apparently noone looks at it in depth. And that is a pity, because it makes Black attack after 20. ... h5 look quite dubious. |
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| Jun-06-08 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Alexander Alekhine-A master of knights! |
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Jun-22-08
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| micartouse: The buildup to the famous 26 ... Re3 is pretty impressive. Black plays 20 ... h5, and it looks like he's acquiesced to a kingside pawn storm vs. queenside minority attack battle against the 4 white pawns which look like a Catalan structure. Really, he trades a pawn off to loosen the g3 square so he can sacrifice on e3. This in itself is inspiring. However, he simultaneously uses White's minority attack on the queenside against him. He gives White a chance to pry open his a-file for the a8 rook before launching the sacrifice - now all pieces are in play! It's very powerful. |
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| Jun-23-08 |
| Zickzack: @micartouse: actually, Alekhine's attack is quite suicidial. If Reti overcame his reluctance to use the central pawns, he would get the superior, possibly won, position with 25. e4 Nb6 26. Qd3. This commenting from the result -- Alekhine won, hence his moves must be good and Reti's must be bad -- is a nuisance. Vukovic remarked that whenever Alekhine had made a surprising move, commentators put one or two exclamation marks, whereas careful analysis would have shed doubt on his play. Euwe's win against Alekhine is easier to understand with this knowledge. There is a moral to the story: if Black attacks on the kingside and White attacks on the queenside, the one in command of the center has the better chances. |
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| Jul-15-08 |
| myschkin: in German (by Helmut Pfleger) Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nFD8AUp0...
Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-OgtlB_N... Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=clVCZ2fA... |
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Sep-02-08
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| twinlark: <Zickzack>
With due respect, Alekhine's attack was not suicidal; even had Reti played <25.e4 Nb6 26.Qd3>: 
click for larger viewwhich would have given him the better position (and was probably the best continuation), it's still a very challenging position to win. What Reti saw was that Alekhine's position was ripe for a minority attack, but he failed to secure the centre <first>, <before> reaping the queen side harvest. The position remains very complex. For example, White can almost force the win of a pawn with <26...Rad8 (what else?) 27.Qc3 Nbd7 28.Nxa6> and after <28...Qb6 (28...bxa6? 29.Nxc6) 29.Nc5 Nxc5 30.bxc5 Qc7 31.Re1>, White has the upper hand with the extra pawn plus position, but Black has defences. I've spent many hours studying this position with the help of my trusty engine, and all the promising leads turn to dust, especially once the queen side pawns are dissolved. A more promising line after the FEN position above, is <26...Rad8 27.Qc3 Nbd7 28.Nxb7!!>: 
click for larger viewwhich seems to win in all variations.
The question is whether Black has a better alternative than the putative moves 26 and 27 leading to the last FEN. Black's game is surprisingly resilient: eg: <26...Rad8 27.Qc3> and instead of the plausible but losing <27...Nbd7>, Black's saving move may be <27...Kh8>. The more I study this game from the positions I've described above, the more I've come to admire it. After all, no game is won without one player making a mistake. Moreover, the greatest games are between masters, where the mistakes are subtle and complex rather than say the Morphy vs Duke of Brunswick game which looks like a game between a 2700 and an 1800. I can't imagine that Reti didn't see <25.e4>, but made a[n incorrect] judgment call that his minority attack was the way to go. Reti's losing move was in fact <27.Nf3>, but this is a mistake any GM could have made... This still counts as my favourite ever game. Reti declined the implicit draw offer, made a slight mistake in prematurely pushing the minority attack, Alekhine found a drawing combination, which after a very subtle mistake by Reti became a diabolically complex winning combination. To me, this is the essence of chess at its finest.
<Life Master AJ>
Your comments in your analysis about the advance of technology are quite apposite. However, I would like to query your analysis of White’s move <27.Kh2> which purportedly refutes Alekhine’s combination. You mentioned that <27.Kh2 Bh5!? 28.Bf3> is <clearly a little better> for White, without fully investigating whether <27…Raa3> is in fact Black’s best move. My abacus rattled its beads and advised that after <28…Bxf3 29.exf3 Rea3>, the game is dead even. For example: <30.bxc6 bxc6 31.Nd3 Qa5! 32.Rdd1 <or 32.Rcc2 Ne7 33.Nxc6 Nxc6 34.Qxc6 Rd8 35.Qc4 Qf5> Ra4 33.Qc5 Qxc5 34.Nxc5 Ra2 35.Nd3 R8a3> and Black is perfectly fine.
This is such a straightforward line, I’m surprised it was missed by previous analysts. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| ughaibu: Twinlark: In both diagrams the black kings rook should be on e8. |
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Sep-02-08
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| twinlark: (Thanks <ughaibu>)
<Zickzack>
With due respect, Alekhine's attack was not suicidal; even had Reti played <25.e4 Nb6 26.Qd3>: 
click for larger viewwhich would have given him the better position (and was probably the best continuation), it's still a very challenging position to win. What Reti saw was that Alekhine's position was ripe for a minority attack, but he failed to secure the centre <first>, <before> reaping the queen side harvest. The position remains very complex. For example, White can almost force the win of a pawn with <26...Rad8 (what else?) 27.Qc3 Nbd7 28.Nxa6> and after <28...Qb6 (28...bxa6? 29.Nxc6) 29.Nc5 Nxc5 30.bxc5 Qc7 31.Re1>, White has the upper hand with the extra pawn plus position, but Black has defences. I've spent many hours studying this position with the help of my trusty engine, and all the promising leads turn to dust, especially once the queen side pawns are dissolved. A more promising line after the FEN position above, is <26...Rad8 27.Qc3 Nbd7 28.Nxb7!!>: 
click for larger viewwhich seems to win in all variations.
The question is whether Black has a better alternative than the putative moves 26 and 27 leading to the last FEN. Black's game is surprisingly resilient: eg: <26...Rad8 27.Qc3> and instead of the plausible but losing <27...Nbd7>, Black's saving move may be <27...Kh8>. The more I study this game from the positions I've described above, the more I've come to admire it. After all, no game is won without one player making a mistake. Moreover, the greatest games are between masters, where the mistakes are subtle and complex rather than say the Morphy vs Duke of Brunswick game which looks like a game between a 2700 and an 1800. I can't imagine that Reti didn't see <25.e4>, but made a[n incorrect] judgment call that his minority attack was the way to go. Reti's losing move was in fact <27.Nf3>, but this is a mistake any GM could have made... This still counts as my favourite ever game. Reti declined the implicit draw offer, made a slight mistake in prematurely pushing the minority attack, Alekhine found a drawing combination, which after a very subtle mistake by Reti became a diabolically complex winning combination. To me, this is the essence of chess at its finest.
<Life Master AJ>
Your comments in your analysis about the advance of technology are quite apposite. However, I would like to query your analysis of White’s move <27.Kh2> which purportedly refutes Alekhine’s combination. You mentioned that <27.Kh2 Bh5!? 28.Bf3> is <clearly a little better> for White, without fully investigating whether <27…Raa3> is in fact Black’s best move. My abacus rattled its beads and advised that after <28…Bxf3 29.exf3 Rea3>, the game is dead even. For example: <30.bxc6 bxc6 31.Nd3 Qa5! 32.Rdd1 <or 32.Rcc2 Ne7 33.Nxc6 Nxc6 34.Qxc6 Rd8 35.Qc4 Qf5> Ra4 33.Qc5 Qxc5 34.Nxc5 Ra2 35.Nd3 R8a3> and Black is perfectly fine.
This is such a straightforward line, I’m surprised it was missed by previous analysts. |
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| Oct-22-08 |
| Antonius Blok: What happens if 31.Kf1
someone got a winning combination ?
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| Oct-22-08 |
| Ladolcevita: if kf1,i think white will lose material immediately ..... |
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| Jan-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Alekhine is Reti to play the attack |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| WhiteRook48: why did Reti resign? |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| slomarko: coz he's lost 
click for larger view Rf2 Ra2 Ra2 Nf3 Kg2 Ra2 
click for larger view |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| sfeuler: 41.Re3(or f2) Nxf3+ 42.Rxf3 Bd5 forks the Rook and Knight... |
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Feb-04-09
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| notyetagm: Game Collection: Trading the h-pawns overworks the f-pawn Another example from a recent Bundesliga game by Shirov, 20 ... h4xg3 followed by 21 ...  d6xg3!. http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil... |
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| Apr-11-09 |
| sfeuler: Thanks <notyetagm>! |
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| Apr-11-09 |
| Eduardo Leon: 41. Rf2 Nxf3+ 42. Rxf3 Bd5 43. Rb2 Rb8! |
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| May-02-09 |
| AlexanderG: Can anyone explain why 31.Kh2 is forced?
Why can't white play 31.Rxe2 and lose the exchange instead of the whole piece? |
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| May-03-09 |
| SimonWebbsTiger: R:e2 wasn't played as Black masses his forces quickly against f2. So Reti played the natural Kh2. Don't forget that the combination is so deep he couldn't have seen the knock out. |
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| May-03-09 |
| Hafen Slawkenbergius: <Eduardo Leon> 43.Rb2 is impossible, a the rook is on f3.
The rook would need to go to b3 - which is defended by the bishop at d5. |
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| May-03-09 |
| AlexanderG: <SimonWebbsTiger> If White plays 31.Rxe2, Black has to re-capture Rxe2. Then 32.Ne1. If 32...Raa2 - 33.Nd3 defending f2. Eventually, White can bring the Night from b7 to help defend the King. White can at least hope to turn this into Rook vs minor piece drawn ending. Even if Reti did not see the knock out, he must have seen that 31.Kh2 loses the rook immediately. |
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Oct-31-09
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| Calli: Edward Winter's Chess Note 6358 weighs in heavily in favor of the 42 move version of the game, being that Reti himself annotated it that way only two days after he played the game. There was apparently more repetition than the CG score. Reti's version goes 18 Bg2 Bh3 19 Bf3 Bg4 20 Bg2 Bh3 21 Bf3 Bg4 (Alekhine offered a draw here) 22 Bh1 h5 etc. |
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| Nov-11-09 |
| offramp: The game score here is correct inasmuch as Réti resigned after black played ...Nd4. Some people like to continue the game until after black has played ...Bd5. They may have read that the game was 42 moves, so include the bishop fork in the score. So the game was almost certainly 42 moves, but ended with ...Nd4, as here. |
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Nov-17-09
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| Calli: The confusion over the number of moves seems to lie solely with Alekhine since both Reti and the tournament book have the correct score. Apparently, Alekhine could not bear to have his masterpiece marred by including what was an obvious offer to draw by repetition. He also fails to mention that he verbally offered a draw at 21...Bg4. Well, how could he? He had eliminated the move from his score entirely. A candidate for Meine Besten Gefälschten Partien? |
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