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| May-26-08 |
| analysethat: <15.Nb3!! ended that match immediately—Vishy put up incredible resistance but it took him a few YEARS to recover from his loss >
from Kasparov's comments in his book "Chess imitates life" it seems 15. Nb3 was prematch preparation. In fact Kasparov was fantasizing so much about playing it during the previous game, that he lost that game to Anand! He agrees that it unnerved Anand no end.
BTW the book is quite a good read, with less chess analysis (if any) and more about chess. Kasparov suggests that being a champion is not just about good chess, but hard work, nerves etc. - a bit like life. A look into the chessic soul as a microcosm of humans being and becoming. Who's the greatest player? Actually I like them all. But what a game, huh. |
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May-26-08
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| plang: < analysethat: <15.Nb3!! ended that match immediately> > That doesn't make much sense. This was game 10 and tied the match at 1-1. Given that it was clearly home preparation I would think Anand could shrug it off relatively easily. His losses with white against the Dragon in games 11 and 13 which put him behind 3-1 were probably much tougher to recover from; particularly since he didn't play well in these games. <15. Nb3 was prematch preparation. In fact Kasparov was fantasizing so much about playing it during the previous game, that he lost that game to Anand!> Not familiar with this quote but it is a silly excuse for losing game 10. 1) Anand played very well in game 10 and 2) Kasparov could not realistically predict that Anand would play into the specific line allowing Kasparov's innovation. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| Octal: Anand made the same mistake of leaving the king in the center three games later. |
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Oct-19-08
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| artyom2008: 11.ng5 11.qxg5 i dont get it |
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| Oct-19-08 |
| VaselineTopLove: Anand should not have played this line again in game 10, since it's a repeat of game 6, which was drawn. After the game, it was discovered that white probably had a slight advantage and Anand would have found this too if he analyzed the position with his seconds later on, so I don't understand why he chose to play the same line again. Did he think Kasparov would not have found an improvement and would waste another white by playing a draw? |
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| Nov-06-08 |
| Maximus0723: Fischer would have beat Karpov. |
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Nov-06-08
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| keypusher: <Maximus0723: Fischer would have beat Karpov.> With all due respect, no one knows.
<littlefermat: ..."Chess prowess" can be defined as an umbrella term and psychological pressure is one of those elements. By attributing his wins more to psychological pressure than the quality of play is completely inaccurate, in my opinion. Probably the other way around. His opponents felt tremendous psychological pressure <because> of the quality of Fischer's play. > Well said. |
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| Nov-19-08 |
| Andrijadj: Imagine this:Linares 1995 lineup:Fischer,Karpov,Kasparov,Kramnik,Anand,Top-
alov,Short,Korchnoi:)))) |
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| Dec-07-08 |
| Everett: <Andijadj>
Take out Fischer and Korchnoi and it makes more sense. Those guys were not playing top-level chess in '95, and Karpov and Short were on the way down from '96 on. Why not Ivanchuk? |
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| Dec-27-08 |
| Trojan Horse: Kasparov's annotation on this game can be found in
http://www.chesscafe.com/text/infor... |
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| Dec-27-08 |
| fporretto: A word or two about Bobby Fischer.
Fischer, while a great player, was motivated by something rather different than that which drives most great players. His main goals were 1) to become World Champion; 2) to beat the Russians. He said so on numerous occasions. These motivations gave his play, and his attitude toward the game, a Messianic cast. It shows a certain consistency with his involvement with Garner Ted Armstrong's Church of the Air. But desires die of fulfillment. Once Fischer had achieved both his goals, what was left for him? To defend his title? I doubt that was of much interest to him. According to what I've read, those who kept in touch with him in the later Seventies found it hard to get him interested in chess. In the years before his death, he had apparently lost interest in the standard game, merely dabbling occasionally in Chess960. Chess at the highest levels is more complex than ever before. The degree of preparation required to compete at that level is appallingly intense, which is why some of the top players have begun to object to the relative ease -- yes, I know how that looks -- of attaining grandmaster rank. If your motivation is not strong, your ability, however great, will not be deployed. If what's required of you to do X, regardless of what X is or what rewards might flow from succeeding at X, exceeds your will to apply yourself, you'll sit on the sidelines. And that's what became of Robert James Fischer, however good he was or could have been. |
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| Jan-05-09 |
| Andrijadj: Ok,we can add Kamsky and Ivanchuk... |
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| Jan-12-09 |
| jovack: anand is just outclassed |
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| Jan-29-09 |
| VaselineTopLove: <Given that it was clearly home preparation I would think Anand could shrug it off relatively easily. His losses with white against the Dragon in games 11 and 13 which put him behind 3-1 were probably much tougher to recover from; particularly since he didn't play well in these games.> While it makes sense to shrug off defeats based on home preparation, it still stings because as a top-level GM, you should be able to find good moves OTB based on your knowledge and understanding of the game, even if you are not well versed in certain openings. Even the Sicilian Dragon was a result of solid home preparation. It's not as if Kasparov decided to play the Dragon when he got to the board for Game 11. |
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Mar-10-09
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| blacksburg: <11.ng5 11.qxg5 i dont get it> welcome to the club. i've read some analysis, and i still don't get it. |
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| Apr-07-09 |
| chessman95: <11.ng5 11.qxg5 i dont get it> I think that 11...Qxg5 is weak because of 12.Qf3!, after which I don't see any great line for black. Don't quote me on this though... I remember reading it in a book a long time ago and I'm not sure that's correct. The tactics with white's knight moving to uncover the bishop attack on the queen are really making things complicated... maybe black does have a way to stay alive? |
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| Apr-07-09 |
| crwynn: 12.Qf3 is in fact the move but 11...Qxg5 is by no means "weak": 12.Qf3 0-0-0 13.Bxe6 fe 14.Qxc6 Qxe5 15.b4 Qd5 16.Qxd5 ed 17.bc dc and after capturing the piece on g5, black is now a piece *down* but after 18...d4 his passers are obviously strong. The story of this variation is: Igor Zaitsev invented 11.Ng5, and Karpov sprung it on Korchnoi in Karpov vs Korchnoi, 1978, who replied with the same variation Vishy used here, and drew after Karpov played the uninspiring 14.Nf3. Tal came up with the idea 14.Bc2 Qxc3 15.Nb3!! but gave no analysis, finally Kasparov sprung it on Vishy with devastating effect. Timman vs Smyslov, 1979 came shortly after the "premier" of 11.Ng5, showing the line I just gave. I suppose they still haven't stopped analyzing this to move 30 or whatever, but I hear that Black is quite okay here. |
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| Apr-08-09 |
| chessman95: <crwynn> Thank you for correcting me. If anyone else is looking for a good explanation, I remembered that the book I read it in was Opening Essentials Vol.1 The Complete 1.e4 |
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Apr-20-09
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| Albertan: Kasparov does not deserve credit for the move 14.Bc2!! in this game. In GM Ftacnik's analysis of game 10 in Chessbase Magazine, Ftacnik implies that the move 14.Bc2!! was an idea of M.Tal's . However this is simply wrong!The move 14.Bc2!! was first played in the following game by Van den Berg: [Event "NED-chT corr"]
[Site "Netherlands"]
[Date "1990.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Van den Berg"]
[Black "Nevestveit, Oddbjorn"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C80"]
[PlyCount "71"]
[EventDate "1990.??.??"]
[EventType "tourn (corr)"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "NED"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1997.09.01"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4 6. d4 b5 7. Bb3 d5 8. dxe5 Be6 9. Nbd2 Nc5 10. c3 d4 11. Ng5 dxc3 12. Nxe6 fxe6 13. bxc3 Qd3 14. Bc2 Qxc3 15. Nb3 Rd8 16. Bd2 Qxe5 17. Re1 Qd5 18. Nxc5 Bxc5 19. Bb3 Qd4 20. Rxe6+ Ne7 21. Kh1 Qxf2 22. Rxa6 h5
23. Bg5 Rxd1+ 24. Rxd1 Ba7 25. Re6 Qc5 26. Bxe7 Qxe7 27. Bd5 Qxe6 28. Bxe6 Ke7 29. Bf5 Rf8 30. Rd7+ Ke8 31. Rd5 c6 32. Bg6+ Ke7 33. Re5+ Kd6 34. Rf5 Rxf5 35. Bxf5 c5 36. Kg1 0-1 In addition, The move 10...c4 was first played by Lasker in a game against Capablanca in 1914!. The move 11.Ng5 was first played in a correspondence game between Pedrani and Lucidi in 1978, the move 11...dxc3 was first played by Korchnoi in game 10 of the 1987 World Chess Championship. The moves 12.Nxe6 fxe6 13.bxc3 Qd3 were played in the same Karpov-Korchnoi game, and not thought up by Kasparov and Anand! |
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Apr-20-09
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| JaneEyre: Just wondering when 1.e4 e5 were first played. |
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| Apr-20-09 |
| SimonWebbsTiger: JaneEyre "Just wondering when 1.e4 e5 were first played." this is something of a problem because chess had so many rule variations in Europe when the game came from the Muslim world. So would 1.e4 e5 count in games where the Queen could only move one square on its first move! The (not very acurate) answer would be some time around the turn of the 16th Century when the game got the rules we know now. Lucena (1497) and Damiano (1512) wrote the first opening books. Damiano suggested 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 of course. Hope that helps. |
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| Apr-23-09 |
| rwsmith29456: Kasparov gives a pawn away. His queenside is invaded and he converts this into an advanced kingside 3-pawn
roller with two connected passed pawns. Voodoo, plain and simple. Voodoo. |
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May-29-09
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| talisman: 11.Ng5 first played by karpov in 1978 vs. korchnoi. korchnoi said it was the type of move you see once every 100 yrs. Keene said he had looked at this position hundreds of times never seeing Kng5. attributed to tal at first later to zaitsev(sp). shirov would later play it also. anand plays korchnoi's response here. Keene said it best, when this move was first played, "White's eleventh move came like a thunderclap!". |
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Oct-21-09
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| aazqua: 11 ng5 is a well accepted move. The real kick in the nuts must have come around move 15 nb3 when Anand realized "There's no way Kasparov gives me a knight unless this is home prep and I'm toast. Oh crap." An absolutely unbelievable sequence given how little material is left to perpetrate the attack. |
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| Oct-21-09 |
| kingsindian2006: its amazing all that chaos in the opening and middle game just for a pawn and tempo advantage.... amazing what it takes to get a small advantage at the highest level. |
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