Feb-20-05
 | | nasmichael: Salo takes a beating here, but to his credit, he does show tough skin in the taking of this beating. |
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| Feb-20-05 | | Albertan: Hi NasMichael. The move 10...g6 is rarely played (maybe because of this game). Black usually plays 10...e6. Although it seems strange after playing ...g6, maybe playing 12...Be7 was a better idea than 12...Qb6. |
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Feb-20-05
| | nasmichael: Thanks, <Albertan>. |
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| Feb-20-05 | | azi: ...and so much for the 2 bishops and related dogma!! Botvinnik gets rid of both bishops early and in an open middle game. Amazing. And his knights didn't do anything special except be where they were needed. AAAAmazing |
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| Feb-21-05 | | Albertan: This may be the only game in this variation in which Black has played ...g6 and won (and of course we all know that "rapid" games are not the most reliable and valid way of judging whether a variation is sound or not): " [Event "Nijmegen rapid"]
[Site "Nijmegen"]
[Date "1980.02.09"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Ligterink, Gert"]
[Black "Bohm, Hans"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B13"]
[WhiteElo "2455"]
[BlackElo "2430"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[EventDate "1980.02.??"]
[EventType "tourn (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "7"]
[EventCountry "NED"]
[EventCategory "10"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2001.11.25"]
1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 dxc4 7. d5 Ne5 8.
Qd4 Nd3+ 9. Bxd3 cxd3 10. Nf3 g6 11. Bxf6 exf6 12. O-O Be7 13. Nb5 a6 14. Rfe1 axb5 15. d6 Be6 16. dxe7 Qxd4 17. Nxd4 Kxe7 18. Rad1 Rxa2 19. Rxd3 Rha8 20.Rde3 R8a6 21. b4 Rb2 22. Re4 f5 23. Rh4 Kf6 24. Nxb5 Rb6 25. Nc3 R6xb4 26. Rxh7 Rc4 27. Rh3 b5 28. Rd3 b4 29. Na4 Ra2 30. Nb6 Rc6 31. Nd5+ Bxd5 32. Rxd5 b3 33.Rdd1 Rcc2 34. Rf1 f4 35. h3 g5 36. Rde1 Kf5 37. Rd1 Ke4 38. Rd7 f6 39. Rd6 Ke5 40. Rd3 b2 41. Rdd1 Ra4 42. Kh2 Re4 43. Kg1 Ree2 44. Rb1 Kd4 45. Rbd1+ Rcd2 46. Rb1 Kc3 0-1 |
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| Feb-21-05 | | Albertan: In this Botvinnik-Flohr game what if Botvinnik had played 20.Nb5! instead? ie. then after 20...Bc7 21.Nxc7! Kxc7 22.Qf4+! Kd8 23.Rc1 Qd7 24.Re6 (with the idea of 25.Rd6) Black is done for. |
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| Feb-21-05 | | Albertan: 22.Ne4 also deserves some attention. If then 22...Bd7 23.Rac1 Rc8 24.Rxc8 Bxc8 25.Qd6+ Bd7 26.Qb8+ Ke7 27.Qxe5 Kd8 28.Qb8+ Bc8 29.Rc1 Qe7 30.Qxa7 is winning. |
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| Oct-02-11 | | Jitanjafora: You can find deep positional analysis of this game, in Botvinnik's "One hundred selected games", game # 33. Of course, after g6 Flohr is in deep trouble. |
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| Jan-04-12 | | Knight13: After 12. O-O Qb6, Botvinnik notes, "One can confidently say that Black's game is lost. There is no relief for him in 12...Be7 13. Rad1!" |
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| Jan-04-12 | | King Death: This was the very early days of the Panov but there's another idea Flohr could have tried that was played a lot 50 years later, with 6...Qa5: J L Watson vs Igor Ivanov, 1983. |
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