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Eugenio Torre vs Jan Timman
Hamburg-TV (1 h) (inf 1982  ·  Slav Defense: Czech. Carlsbad Variation (D17)  ·  0-1
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Feb-27-04  Phoenix: Beautiful!
Feb-27-04  niom: what about 27...Be2?
Feb-27-04
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  patzer2: If 28. exf3, then 28...Qxf1+ Kxf1 29. Bh3+ Kg1 30. Re1#. After 29. Kxf1, then 29...Bh3#.
Feb-27-04
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  patzer2: I found the following article about Timman interesting http://home.wanadoo.nl/kerkradescha...
Feb-27-04  FryGuy1013: I had the same thoughts about 27...Be2, but 28. Nc3 draws against that.
Feb-27-04
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  Honza Cervenka: Lovely finish.
Feb-27-04  Egghead: White can try 27. ... Qxf1+ immediately. Then two lines work:

28.Kxf1 Bh3+ 29.Ke1 Nf3#

28.Kxf1 Bh3+ 29.Kg1 Nf3+ 30.exf3 Re1#.

But White has 28.Kxf1 Bh3+ 29.Kg1 Nf3+ 30.Kh1 and Black can't proceed.

Feb-27-04  BeautyInChess: IMO The amazing move here is 26 ... Qe1!! How many of us want to put our queen in such a position?
Feb-27-04  niom: so maybe 27..Be2 28 Nc3 Nf3+ 29 Kh1 Bf1!! 30 Re1 Re1 and there is no escape - 31... Bh3++ I have no computer program so im not so sure...
Feb-27-04  niom: and if 29 Kg1 then Bf1+ 30 Kf3 Qe2 31 Kf4 Re4+ 32 Kf5 Qg4++
Feb-27-04
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  kevin86: Brilliant!! White does not hold on for the sequel 29Kxf1 Bh3, checkmate
Feb-27-04  niom: <pater2> but 30..Qe2 is with check, so white has to move his king, i suppose..
Feb-27-04
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  patzer2: <niom> I haven't used a computer program on this position either, but I see 27...Bxe2?! 28. Nc3 Nf3+ 29. Kg2 Bxf1+ 30. Kxf3 Be2+ <not 30...Qd2? 31. Rxf1 > 31. Kg2 <not 31. Nxe2? Qxe2+ 32. Kg2 Qe5+ 33. Kh3 Qxb1 > 31...Bf1+ 32. Kf3 Be2+ 33. Kg2 Bf1+ = as leading to a draw by repetition of moves. Though taking the draw here is not forced for Black, I don't see a better continuation (if 33...Qd2?!34. Qxb7 wins a pawn with a slight White advantage). Timman's quick mate with 27. Nf3+!! is clearly best.

Niom, I meant 30...Qd2 (not 30...Qe2). So, I reposted with the correction. If 30...Qe2+?, then 31. Nxe2 wins for White.

Feb-27-04  mcavoy76: Here's what GNUChess came up with, kind of roundabout.

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2004.02.27"]
[Round "-"]
[White "GNUChess"]
[Black "GNUChess"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "40/300"]
[FEN "4r1k1/1pQ3pp/2p2p2/P3n3/6b1/6P1/1P2PP1P/1R1NqBK1 b - - 0 1"] [SetUp "1"]

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. . . . r . k .
. p Q . . . p p
. . p . . p . .
P . . . n . . .
. . . . . . b .
. . . . . . P .
. P . . P P . P
. R . N q B K .
black to play
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1... Nf3+ 2. exf3 Qxf1+ 3. Kxf1 Bh3+ 4. Kg1 Re1#
Black mates 0-1

Feb-27-04  niom: <patzer2> im real patzer :) i overlooked night on c3 controling e2 square.. but in that case maybe 27...Be2 28 Nc3 Bf1! 29 Re1 Nf3+ 30 Kf1 Re1++

probably this time i missed something else:(

Feb-28-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: <niom> We're all patzers against a strong enough opponent or tough enough problem :-} Also coming up with a solution that leads to a forced draw against a strong master is an accomplishment, even if GM Timman has a better solution.

In your last analysis, I think you might have missed 27...Bxe2 28. Nc3 Bxf1 29. Rxe1 Nf3+ 30. Kxf1 Re1+ <31. Kg2> and White escapes with a win. You might want to set the problem up on a chess board instead of trying to solve it all in your head.

Apr-02-04  niom: patzer you were absolutly right - now i see it - with my computer program :)
Sep-20-04  stephenlk: i think 25 qc7 is a mistake. much more
26 a5 is a blunder
Dec-19-06  Major Dude: What a beautiful finish!!!
Feb-19-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  cu8sfan: How come this has never been a puzzle of the day? I fell for 27...Qxf1+.
Feb-19-09
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  Eggman: It's not as pretty or as quick, but it looks like Timman also could have won with 26...Bxe2 27.Nc3 Nf3+ 28.Kh1 Bxf1 29.Rxe1 Rxe1 30.Qc8+ Kf7 31.Qd7+ Kg6 32.Qg4+ Ng5 33.h4 Bh3+
Aug-07-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: Brief footage of the conclusion to this game from the BBC broadcast of the 1982 Hamburg World Cup can be found on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRq.... Most of the vid is devoted to Bouaziz vs Karpov from the same event.
Dec-28-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Wyatt Gwyon: Black's 27th move is excellent puzzle material. Ran into this position on chesstempo.com (a great site, btw), which currently has it rated 1983.
Dec-28-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Wyatt Gwyon: <Eggman> If 1...Bxe2 2.Nc3 Nf3+ then 3.Kg2! Bxf1+ 4.Kxf3
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