|Nov-16-02|| ||pawntificator: How about 34...Ng5 35 Qxa6 Qxa6 36 Rxa6 Rf1+ 37 Kh2 Ne4 and I would bet on black to win! wooo!!! Although I personally like Keres better. Why is there no picture of Keres on his page?? |
|Nov-16-02|| ||drukenknight: I dont think white wants to exchange at this pt. he wants to work the pin and the passed pawn. |
|Nov-17-02|| ||pawntificator: But they gave up and called it a tie over the protection of a pawn!! How cowardly. It appears that black could win from the final position |
|Nov-19-02|| ||drukenknight: 34...Ng5 35 Rf1 |
|Jun-24-06|| ||Whitehat1963: So how do Crafty and the rest of the engines evaluate the final position. What's the best continuation? (Opening of the Day)|
|Jun-24-06|| ||crafty: 34. ... ♖f5 35. ♔g1 ♖f8 36. ♕xa6 ♕d7 37. ♕a2 ♕c6 (eval -0.60; depth 15 ply; 1000M nodes)|
|Dec-08-11|| ||Honza Cervenka: I wonder why Euwe did not play simply 29...Qxc3. White was quite happy to escape with draw here.|
|Jul-12-13|| ||zydeco: <honza cervenka> Euwe probably figured that white had too many threats and he needed the queen for defense. But I agree: 29....Qxc3 30.dxe5 Nxe4 31.Rxa6 Qc4! and it looks like he stops all of white's ideas.|
|Jul-12-13|| ||thomastonk: From Euwe's book on this world championship tournament (translated from the Dutch): "29.. Qf8! 29.. Qxc3 is too risky: 30.dxe5 and then|
1) 30.. Rd7 <line omitted>
2) 30.. Nxe4 31.e6
2a) 31.. Rf8 <line omitted>
2b) 31.. Rf6 <line omitted>."
So, it seems that he missed in variant 2 the advantageous moves 31.. Rf5 and 31.. Nxg3+ 32.hxg6 Rf6. This is reproducible, I think, because both continuations allow a check on d8.
Btw, Golombek in his book writes: "The tempting 29. .... QxP fails ..." and though he has several lines, it seems that he missed the same moves, because in variant 2 he considers only 31.. Rf8.
|Jul-12-13|| ||offramp: Euwe could miss quite a lot in analysis. In Euwe vs Reshevsky, 1938 he misses a fairly obvious mate in 2 while sitting at home with his bong.|
|Jul-12-13|| ||thomastonk: <offramp> Yes, no doubt, you are right: Euwe blundered a lot. But in this special case I would guess that the winning moves seem to be counter-intuitive for many strong players. The rook moves forward, forcing the check on d8, and then backwards to f8, and only then it turns out that White has nothing better than to return with the queen to d1. The outcome of this 'simple' manoeuvre is the gain of a tempo, because Black's rook is no longer attacked on f7. However, selective human brains tend to exclude such subtleties, in particular, if the problem is a few moves ahead.|
|Jul-13-13|| ||zydeco: I think the point is that, after 31.....Rf6 (in the variation starting with 29....Qxc3), white has 32.Qd8+ Rf8 33.Rd1 (threatening e7). But even then black has 33....Qf6 (maybe other moves too) and he can force a draw after 34.e7 with 34....Nxg3+ (not .....Qf1+?? 35.Rxf1!) 35.hxg3 Qh6+.|