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Robert James Fischer vs Bent Larsen
"Denver Omelette" (game of the day Oct-26-07)
Fischer - Larsen Candidates Semifinal (1971)  ·  French Defense: Winawer. Advance Variation (C19)  ·  1-0
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Robert James Fischer vs Bent Larsen (1971)
Fischer holds out his fists to let Larsen pick who has white for the first game of the candidates match, 1971.

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May-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: It's not a great picture, so it's hard to be sure. But it doesn't look nearly as good as the set the Argentinians provided for the final. (Scroll down.)

http://kevinspraggett.blogspot.com/...

May-03-13  Petrosianic: The Buenos Aires Club was a ritzy one. They hosted the Capablanca-Alekhine match. Temple Buell is a now-defunct women's college.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colora...

It's easier to get bids for a final than a semi-final. Still, it makes you think that Fischer hadn't started to make big waves in the non-chess press yet, if this was the best they could do.

I'm surprised Larsen didn't object to playing in the US. Petrosian objected to Argentina but was overruled (he'd wanted Greece, but Argentina put up more money). As it turned out, Fischer got to play all three Candidates Matches in the Americas.

May-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  keypusher: <diceman>

< (after all, if it was match prep <Petrosianic> would need to give Fischer some credit)>

Right, because match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.

May-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  RookFile: They could have played the matches on the moon, and Fischer still wins.
May-03-13  Petrosianic: <Right, because match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.>

Yes, this is an example of how you can't say anything about Fischer without setting fanboy knees jerking. What I said was much more complimentary than what they're saying, they're just not clever enough to see it. All they see is one specific piece of praise being rejected, and the patella springs into motion before they can hear what I put in its place.

May-03-13  Everett: <keypusher: <diceman> < (after all, if it was match prep <Petrosianic> would need to give Fischer some credit)>

Right, because match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.>

I've been enjoying your posts. Thank you for your bright humor.

May-03-13  Mudphudder: Very impressive game, but two super aggressive players!
May-03-13  Everett: <Yes, this is an example of how you can't say anything about Fischer without setting fanboy knees jerking. What I said was much more complimentary than what they're saying, they're just not clever enough to see it. All they see is one specific piece of praise being rejected, and the patella springs into motion before they can hear what I put in its place.>

We must steer clear of those springing patellae!!!

May-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  diceman: <keypusher: <diceman> < (after all, if it was match prep <Petrosianic> would need to give Fischer some credit)>

Right, because match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.>

Well keypusher,

I see:

<Petrosianic:
He simply had a lot of experience>

I guess a World Champion candidate would?

<Petrosianic:
It's the same reason everyone was playing the Caro-Kann against him in 1959.>

Of course, the 1959 time machine relates to the 1970’s

<Petrosianic:
It's a great game>

A bold, “risky” statement?

<Petrosianic:
but winning it had nothing to do with great prep>

I didn’t know <Petro> was privy to Fischer’s prep?

I wonder if the other five or any of the six with Taimanov had to do with prep? How about the 1972 WC Match?
How about the Interzonal?

Did Fischer even study chess?
(Im sure only <Petrosianic> knows)

<Petrosianic:
Objectively, Kasparov was "better" than Fischer>

…more high praise from a great Fischer fan.
(wish he gave a date in time)

<Petrosianic:
Petrosian had to play somewhere he didn't want to>

Poor, poor, Tigran.
We needed to explain his results somehow.

(unless <Petrosianic:> meant, across the board from Fischer was <to play somewhere he didn't want to>?)

<Petrosianic:
The results were what they were, and they counted.>

Just the facts ma'am!
Praise cant get much higher.

<Petrosianic:
Because a) he's American>

Obviously ability, winning, results, titles, firsts, don’t really matter.

<and b) because frankly he makes a great story that even people who can't play chess can relate to.>

… more “story” than player and he relates to the uninformed.

…don’t see a whole lot about:

<keypusher:
outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board>

I’m guessing that’s way too “fan-boy” for a great, great, “Fischer fan” like <Petrosianic:>

<Petrosianic:
but winning it had nothing to do with great prep>

You’d think being such a close confidant of Fischer.

Bobby would have asked <Petrosianic:> to write the intro’s to “My 60 Memorable Games” instead of a fan-boy like Evans?

May-03-13  Everett: Fanboyism amongst males: evidence of poor male role-models during the ages of 7-14?
May-03-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  diceman: <Petrosianic:
What I said was much more complimentary than what they're saying they're just not clever enough to see it.>

You’re correct
Who would know this was a great, great, compliment?

<Petrosianic:
Objectively, Kasparov was "better" than Fischer>

Possibly Fisher’s greatest “compliment”?????

<Petrosianic:
What I said was much more complimentary than what they're saying>

Poor <Petrosianic:> all that great, great, love for Fischer, and he constantly has to explain how much he likes him, I wonder why it doesn’t ring true in his posts?

May-03-13  Petrosianic: <We must steer clear of those springing patellae!!!>

The knee prints on the ceiling do get embarrassing after a while.

Jul-26-13
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  perfidious: <keypusher: <diceman>

< (after all, if it was match prep <Petrosianic> would need to give Fischer some credit)>

Right, because match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.>

Of course it is: no top player can get on without using one of them there sil-ee-cone engines today for everthang.

Oct-08-13  Vincenze: Surely Larsen could have done better than 16...ng6
Apr-10-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <harrylime: < Conrad93: 21. Bd6!! wins instantly >

Don't be silly.>

One thing for sure, Larsen was at least as big as Fischer, maybe more, in stature. But not in chess ability...

Aug-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: < Petrosianic: ...

Fischer's win had nothing to do with match prep, preparing for the French, on the off chance that Larsen might play it. He simply had a lot of experience playing against the French in general to draw from.>

And, Fischer was the best player in the world at the time of the match. That helps quite a bit...

Aug-01-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: And of course Larsen resigned on move 41 because 41...c2 loses to 42.Re1+
Aug-23-14  Howard: For years--or rather, decades--it was believed that Larsen's optimistic try of 32...Qxc3, was the fatal blunder, but it now seems that it was actually......the best move ! Chesscafe did a nice column on that particular move about five years back.
Aug-23-14  cwcarlson: I was a spectator! 21.Bf3 (played instantly) lets Black survive, while 21.Bd6 (+3.57 Houdini) is crushing. Houdini says 26...h6 is best. After 27.Qa6+ Kh7 28.Qa5 Rd2 (now!) 29.Qf5+ Kh8 30.Bh5 Re4 31.Qf8+ Kh7 32.Qf5+ Kh8 it's a draw. It's too bad Fischer never annotated this game.
Jan-17-16  bobbyperez: 34...Qxc2 saves the game. 35.a5 Qd3 36.a6 c3 37.Bb7 c2 38.Bb6 Qd6! 39.a7 Qxb6 40.a8Q Qxg1+ 41.Kxg1 c1Q+ is drawish.Or 35.Bd5+ Ke7 36.Bc5+ Kf6!=
Jan-17-16  DWINS: <bobbyperez: 34...Qxc2 saves the game.35.a5 Qd3 36.a6 c3 37.Bb7 c2 38.Bb6 ...>

There is no saving the game at this point. Instead of 38.Bb6?, White wins with 38.Rc1! A likely continuation might be 38...Qd2 39.Rxc2 Qxc2 40.Bg1 Qb3 41.Ba8 h5 42.a7 Kg6 43.Bc6

Jul-09-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  garland: I'm guessing Larsen was thinking about Fischer's awful score vs the Winawer (his worst against any opening really).
Jul-09-16
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  perfidious: <keypusher....match prep is meritorious but outplaying your opponent in a complex position over the board is contemptible.>

This is true, except when it isn't, to wit--all the bashing the victor of Aronian vs Anand, 2013 received in the aftermath.

Aug-31-16  andrea volponi: 33...Rh5!-Axa7 g5-Ac5 g4-Ae8+ Rh6-Af8+ Rg5-Ae7 RH6-Af8=
Feb-25-17  Pedro.Akcio: The final position is just beautiful...Fisher was a monster!
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