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|Nov-11-11|| ||DrMAL: <Richard Taylor> Don't worry about competition, no one other than you is wanker claiming to be genius with statement like <I would have found all this if I was asleep and drunk!> However, as stated in previous post no one buys your genius part, all one can possibly conclude is you are wanker nothing else.|
|Nov-11-11|| ||OhioChessFan: I don't often agree with <Richard Taylor> but this strikes me as pretty much a coffee house game.|
|Nov-11-11|| ||OhioChessFan: Okay, it was blitz. That explains a lot. I know POTD are a little divorced from reality since they are de facto telling you some important shot is on the board, but if you set this position up 13. ? It wouldn't be much more than a Wednesday/Thursday.|
|Nov-12-11|| ||AnalyzeThis: Actually, Rxe6 doesn't win the game, it just gives white chances. Karpov wasn't lost until later.|
|Nov-12-11|| ||Richard Taylor: < DrMAL: <Richard Taylor> Don't worry about competition, no one other than you is wanker claiming to be genius with statement like <I would have found all this if I was asleep and drunk!> However, as stated in previous post no one buys your genius part, all one can possibly conclude is you are wanker nothing else. >|
Well, seeing your comments here, which were directed at YOU, to whit, that you we either a genius or a wanker, it is clear you are, sadly, a resident of the latter category.
The sac on e6 is a well known motif. I admire many of Tal's games (I have done since 1961) but this is, while ingenious, not one of his best.
Karpov played some wonderful attacking games when he needed to. There is no need to belabour this game...study some of Karpov's great games.
In so doing DrMal (Doctor Bad?!!!) might become less of a moron!!
|Nov-12-11|| ||penarol: Tal vs A Kolarov, 1970|
|Nov-13-11|| ||DrMAL: <Richard Taylor> Tal and Karpov could also both take a lesson from you, apparently like our illustrious Florida Fischer, CG is blessed with another self-proclaimed Chess God who sees through games such as this when "drunk and asleep" to quote the Great One here. Sorry if I do not possess such super-human intelligence if that makes me "moron" in Great One's all-seeing eyes, I can only beg Your forgiveness for my mere mortality.|
|Nov-13-11|| ||checkmateyourmove: <Richard Taylor> You sure looked like a genius in your last tourney in NZ... Impressive!|
|Nov-16-11|| ||FSR: 12...Be6? is a surprisingly naive move, even in blitz, for Karpov. See http://www.chesscafe.com/text/dvore....|
|Nov-16-11|| ||talriga25: for an old and unhealthy genius that game is ok..|
|Nov-16-11|| ||DrMAL: <FSR> I would not call "naive" but instead "classical" but maybe it means same thing. Thanx for article, quote from Kasparov, <As Kasparov once said (about a sacrifice on c3 in the Sicilian Defense), "the
question of sacrificing the exchange is a question of chess culture!"> means what I am trying to write. Karpov was fabulously great player, best example IMO of that style. But, as Kasparov has pointed out on other occasions, he was classical player and that style was shown to be insufficient (main battle was in 1985 WC). I think best single example was Karpov's 23.Be3? in Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 move that made Kasparov undeniably WC, see discussion with <SWT> in that game, maybe you will have some comments to add, cheers.|
|Nov-17-11|| ||DrMAL: Funny thing about rude comments and insults from <Richard Taylor> is that position around move 12 of sac was simply not important part in this game. Instead, "all seeing" player (even when drunk and asleep) had no comment on moves 20-22 where position WAS important and key errors DID occur.|
|Nov-18-11|| ||HectorChess: <DrMAL: ... on moves 20-22 where position WAS important and key errors DID occur.>
says who? you or fritz?|
|Dec-20-11|| ||talisman: i believe Tal's last win over botvinnik was in a caro and in a similar panov...wonder how different 61 would have been if he had used the panov and not the advanced variation?|
|Dec-20-11|| ||King Death: <talisman> Here's their final game, but it was very different from the line played in the game above: Tal vs Botvinnik, 1966. It is funny though that Tal never played the Panov much against the Caro Kann.|
|Dec-20-11|| ||Mudphudder: This game almost seemed too easy for Tal. Tal has had far more impressive games than this. I'm rather surprised that this was a game against someone as good as Karpov....|
|Dec-21-11|| ||FSR: <Mudphudder> It was only a blitz game, so I wouldn't attach too much significance to it.|
|Dec-22-11|| ||talisman: <King Death> your game was not a blitz game and i thank you for that.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||master of defence: 24.Nf6! wins more faster, after 24...Qxe1+ 25.Kh2 Qe5+ 26.g3 h6 27.Qg6 followed by Qh7# Or i´m wrong?|
|Jun-23-12|| ||beatgiant: <master of defence>
24. Nf6 Qxe1+ 25. Kh2 Qe5+ 26. g3 <Bh6> and then what? 27. Qxh6 Rf7. Still might be a faster win, but I don't see it yet.|
|Jun-23-12|| ||Shams: 26.f4 in <m.o.d.>'s line is better. Both 24.Nf6 and 22.Nf6! have been pointed out previously on the thread.|
|Jun-24-12|| ||master of defence: Can it be, <beatgiant>, but if 25...Bh6 in the game, black could draw. See it: 26.Bxh6 Rf7 27.Bxh7 Rc6 28.Bc2 Rxh6 29.Qxh6+ Kg8 30.Qg6+ Kf8 31.Qh6+ Ke8 32. Ba4+ Nc6 33.Bxc6+ bxc6 34.Qxc6+ Kf8 35.Qh6+ Kg8 36.Qg6+ is a draw by perpetual check.|
|Jun-24-12|| ||master of defence: And tell me if I'm wrong on that line, whether they agree or not, and other possibility of draw in the game.|
|Jun-25-12|| ||beatgiant: <master of defense>
I haven't waded through all 7 pages of previous kibitzing to check whether 25...Bh6 has been analyzed yet. Nor have I checked with an engine yet.|
But, it looks like your suggestion wins for Black, eg. 25...Bh6 26. Bxh6 Rf7 27. Bxh7 Rc6 28. Bc2 <Qe6> seems to consolidate (29. Bg5+ Kg8 30. Bb3 Rc4). If you still see a draw, please post.
|Jun-25-12|| ||master of defence: <beatgiant> Black can´t win here. If 28...Qe6 29.Bg7+! Kxg7 30.Qh7+ Kf6 31.Qh8+ Rg7(Kg5 32.Ne4+ Kf4 33.g3+ Kf3 34.Qh5+ Qg4 35.Ng5+ wins)32.Nh5+ Kg5 33.f4+ Kg4 34.Qxg7+ Kxh5 35.Qg5#. Say if agree with me or have a better line for black.|
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