| Jun-20-04 | | morphynoman2: Very strong was 13. Bf4! e5 14. Bg5 Be6 15. Qa4! and Black has no satisfactory defence against the threat of 16. Bxf6 gxf6 (16... Bxf6 17. Nc5) 17. Nd5. Black would have then been in a lost position, whereas now he can battle on (Botvinnik) |
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| Jan-14-06 | | Hesam7: GM Keene gives the following comments in his book on the match: <26.b4?
One move too early. After 26. R3d6 Qc5 17. b4! Black is in great difficulty as can be seen from 27... Qxc3 28. Rxc7, or 27... Qc4 28. bxa5 Bxc3 29. Bxb7 with good winning prospects. Also 26. R3d6 Nc6 27. Na4 Rxd7 28. Rxd7! is no joy for Black. Korchnoi used half of his remaining ten minutes over this inferior move and now found himself in extreme time trouble.> <morphynoman2> It is interesting that the line you quote from Botvinnik: (I used my engine a bit) 13. Bf4! e5 14. Bg5 Be6 15. Qa4! 0-0 [15... Qb6 16. Bxc6 bxc6 17. Bxf6 gxf6 18. Rac1] 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 [16... gxf6 17.Nd5 Bxd5 18. Bxd5] 17. Nc5 Qb6 18. Nxe6 fxe6 19. Qb3! Qxb3 20. axb3 a6 21. Rd7 Rf7 22. Rad1 Rxd7 23. Rxd7 is not mentioned in the book. |
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| Feb-05-12 | | Ulhumbrus: In the sequence 13. Bf4 e5 14. Bg5 Be6 15. Qa4 0-0 16. Bxf6 Bxf6 17. Nc5 Qb6 18. Nxe6 fxe6 19. Qb3 Qxb3 20. axb3 a6 21. Rd7 Rf7 22. Rad1 Rxd7 23. Rxd7 an alternative to 22...Rxd7 is 22...Rc8-f8 and an alternative to 17...Qb6 is 17...Qe7 |
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Aug-21-13
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Mohammed Ali fought George Foreman, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ru.... |
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| Sep-30-22 | | tonsillolith: <offramp: There was another major heavyweight contest going down on the date of this game, the 30th October 174. Mohammed Ali fought George Foreman> For someone who knows little of boxing, would it make more sense to think of Karpov as Ali or Foreman in this matchup? The "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" sounds close enough to Karpov, but that's about all I can say. |
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| Sep-30-22 | | Olavi: <tonsillolith> Karpov sure is Ali, but is Korchnoi Foreman? I don't think so, he did not have that one killer punch. |
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| Oct-04-22 | | tonsillolith: <Olavi: <tonsillolith> Karpov sure is Ali, but is Korchnoi Foreman? I don't think so, he did not have that one killer punch> Ok, that's probably an answer to my question. My knowledge of boxing falls short of even having one trite phrase about each of the two boxers. I usually think of Korchnoi's style as All Tactics - All The Time. Idk how accurate that is, but it's not the same as "one killer punch" anyway. |
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| Dec-31-23 | | Petrosianic: Korchnoi made some arther confusing comments about this game to Tim Krabbe: <Maybe it is only a suspicion of mine, but a strange thing happened in the 17th game. On the fourth move I sacrificed a pawn, which is not at all my style and which I had never done in that position. Normally, Karpov accepts sacrifices like that, but now, without thinking, he refused it. That put some doubt in my mind, and the whole rest of the game I kept thinking: Did he know? If so, who betrayed me?> Not sure what he's talking about. Karpov accepted the pawn on Move 4, and it's really a very standard variation in the Catalan, not at all suspcious. Maybe Korchnoi got the game number wrong, or maybe he meant to say the exact opposite (that Karpov normally <refused> such sacrifices, but this time accepted it). White almost always plays either 4. Bg2 or 4. Nf3 "sacrificing" the pawn in both cases. After 4. Bg2, Black will surely play either dxc4 or Be7, and still be in the book. This seems to fall well short of a smoking gun. |
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| Jan-01-24 | | Petrosianic: Korchnoi might have been talking about Game 15, which opened 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 Bf5 4. c4 c6, but even that hardly seems like an actual sacrifice, any more than the Queen's Gambit is a true sacrifice. I'd expect most GM's to hold the center in that position. |
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Jan-01-24
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