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Anatoly Karpov vs Dragoljub Velimirovic
Skopje (1976), Skopje MKD, rd 4, Mar-??
King's Indian Defense: Saemisch Variation. Bronstein Defense (E87)  ·  1-0
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Sep-14-08  zoren: Nxg3 move is theory and generally considered easily held by black.
Sep-14-08  Woody Wood Pusher: <Nxg3 move is theory and generally considered easily held by black.>

'easily' held??, come on don't exaggerate Kasparov declined to play it when all he needed was a draw in a WC match, so it isn't by any means 'easily' held by a human.

Sep-14-08  Woody Wood Pusher: In Nunn's Chess Openings the 9...Nxg3 line has a evaluation,

the line is 10 Qf2, Nxf1 11. Qxh4, Nxe3 12.Ke2, Nxc4 13. Rc1, Bd7 14. b3, Nb6 15.Nh3, f6

I would be interested to see the improvement that makes it 'easily' held for black.

Sep-14-08  ToTheDeath: White gets some advantage in this line it's true- all in all I prefer a Queen. Look at the mayhem she wrought in this game.
Sep-14-08  Woody Wood Pusher: <TTD> I agree, the queen becomes a monster in this game.

What does Rybka think after 29...Ke7 though? Can white still take control of e6 somehow or does he use another strategy?

Sep-14-08  ToTheDeath: White wins by a nice triangulation of Queen and knight: 29... Ke7 30. Qxh7+ Ke8 31. Qg6+ Ke7 32. Qg7+ Ke8 33. Nh7 Rf7 34. Nxf6+ Ke7 35. Ng8+ Ke8 36. Qg6 and there's no way to stop both threats of Qxd6 and Nh6.
Sep-14-08  Woody Wood Pusher: <TTD> I missed the strength of Ng8 and Qg6, that's really nice. Thanks for clearing that up, I can go to sleep peacefully now.
Mar-03-09  WhiteRook48: funny how Kasparov was not able to win: Kasparov vs Seirawan, 1989
Oct-27-11  DrMAL: Thanx <tamar> for pointing out game in Kasparov vs Seirawan, 1989 yes this sac was indeed thoroughly analyzed but without computers then many had conflicting opinions. For example, Kasparov committed the same error missing 14.Qf2! as I noted in that game. Play in this game after 14.Ke2 was very accurate, white had clear advantage but almost surely not decisive. 20...c6 was beginning of inaccurate line where 21...bxc6?! instead of 21...Bxc6 was first mistake. But then after 22.Nf5! (best) 22...gxf5? instead of 22...Nc8 (to protect d6, after 23.f4 Rf7) was decisive. Beautiful unusually sharp win by Karpov!
Feb-27-14  Travis Bickle: Fantastic game by Karpov!!
Mar-05-14
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  visayanbraindoctor: <KKDEREK: gotd> I agree.

If I may say so, in spite of the sac 22. Nf5, Karpov conducted the rest of the game in the best of his square grabbing prophylactic style.

By move 36. Qxf6, he had attained the most active squares for his Q and N, where they exert maximum effect to keep Black's pieces prophylactically contained. What does Karpov do next? He keeps on grabbing squares. The rook pawn pushes, space expansion, simplification with advantage seem properly appropriate in this Karpovian style of play. Velimirovic is ground down in a prolonged endgame.

Guess who the top player is who most typically plays like this nowadays?

Mar-31-16  Howard: I dunno----who ?
Aug-22-16  Howard: Still waiting for a response...
Aug-23-16
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  offramp: My guess is Morozevich.
Apr-05-18  Howard: We're still "waiting" for a response from Visayanbraindoctor.
Apr-05-18
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  twinlark: Carlsen, probably.
Apr-05-18  Everett: <Howard> maybe he moved on elsewhere since you refused to guess two years after he asked.

So, if he even cares anymore, he's still waiting for someone to guess.

Apr-05-18  Viktorerro: He might have gone through a hiatus lapse of braindeadness to resuscitate the query.
Apr-07-18
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  twinlark: What a pointlessly disrespectful comment.
Apr-07-18  WorstPlayerEver: Amazing game by Karpov.
Apr-14-18
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  visayanbraindoctor: <twinlark: What a pointlessly disrespectful comment.>

Yes Carlsen of course.

Don't worry about <Viktorerro>. If he were living in my area and I knew him, I would probably challenge him to a short match and beat his ass off. But this Filipino lives abroad, and I live in one of the poorest Philippine provinces serving the medical needs of indigent Filipinos all the time.

I hope you reopen your forum.

Apr-14-18  Muttley101: <visayanbraindoctor: Yes Carlsen of course.>

I got that you were referring to Carlsen.

To paraphase Kasparov: it won't be Viktor, and he won't be victor.

All the best.

Apr-14-18
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  morfishine: <visayanbraindoctor> The convoluted and confusing term or phrase "square grabbing prophylactic style" is not recognized as a credible, relevant chess description

This awkward and nonsensical phrase appears to be a co-mingling of two completely unrelated ideas in chess: (1) gaining space [to avoid a cramped position which is related to freeing one's game] & (2) making preventative moves or taking protective measures. Typically, prophylactic moves are made to secure one's position prior to undertaking an attack. However, these type of moves do not necessarily require or involve a gain of space.

The two concepts are unrelated

In any case, attacking chess players do not like to see their brilliant attacks undermined because they overlooked an opponent's resource. Karpov is brilliant at preparing his attacks

*****

Apr-14-18
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  jith1207: Not sure if the wait is over for <Howard>.
Apr-15-18
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  visayanbraindoctor: <Muttley101: <visayanbraindoctor: Yes Carlsen of course.>

I got that you were referring to Carlsen.>

Yes, they have some similarity in style, although of course no two players have exactly the same style. It occurs to me that post of mine was in 2014. It's now 2018, and I believe that Carlsen still plays in the same manner. It has gotten him success so he'll probably continue playing in this manner.

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