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Eugenio Torre vs Anatoly Karpov
"E.T. the Extra-Torrestrial" (game of the day Oct-10-12)
Phillips & Drew GLC Kings (1984)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Huebner. Rubinstein Variation (E42)  ·  1-0
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Oct-10-12  The Last Straw: What a game!
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  Abdel Irada: I agree, <drukenknight>: 23. ...♘g6 looks like a lemon.

Of course, even after the stronger-looking 23. ...♘c4; 24. ♗xc4, Black has to be careful. If he recaptures with the queen, White will penetrate with 25. ♕e7 with dangerous threats that are not easy to meet.

With the pawn recapture, Black retains the queen on c8 for defense, although even there ♕e7 looks annoying.

Oct-10-12  Cyphelium: <Abdel Irada> 23.- bxc4 24. ♗xf6 gxf6 25. ♕e7 with the idea ♘e4 or sometimes ♘h5 (as in 25.- f5 26. ♘h5) looks pretty devastating to me. For example 25.- c3 26. ♘e4 c2 27. ♘xf6+ ♔h8 28. ♘xd5 c1♕ 29. ♕f6+ ♔g8 30. ♘e7+ ♔f8 31. ♕h8 mate.
Oct-10-12  paavoh: At move 25, Karpov's pawn structure was just like Grandpa's teeth - black and scattered.
Oct-10-12  Reggie T: < al wazir: 29...Ne5 was forced because after 29...Kf5 white wins with 30. g4+ Kxf4 31. Qf6+ Kg3 32. Re3+. >

On 29...Kf5, 30. g4+ Kxf4, fastest is 31. Qe3 +mate :-)

Oct-10-12  Lemon69: One of AFGM ET's best game!
Oct-10-12  cunctatorg: Well, Anatoly Karpov decided to take some great risks against Eugenio Torre, thus he threw himself into a very risky position with a sensitive rook "en prise" in d5; Eugenio Torre was able to find some refutation and Anatoly was punished for his too adventurous behavior ... but life keeps asking for some adventures, you know! That's all, your rhetorics and your blah-blah aside...
Oct-10-12  Tigranny: Love the pun and the movie.
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  Castleinthesky: I think Black's mistake was 15...Rxd5 because this left his rook isolated in the center without support and without a way to retreat. White weaved a net that eventually lead to White's white bishop for the rook plus a pawn. From their, the best Black could hope to do was draw, but it was all downhill.
Oct-10-12  drnooo: of course Fischer would have beaten
Karpov probably 6 to zero or maybe
7 to two or some ghastly score like that.
Which is exactly why he insisted on ten wins, even though he knew he wouldn't have needed them......or wait...just how come he did insist on ten wins. Oh well, it doesn't matter.
He was so sure he would beat Karpov can't be right...well he must have had SOME reason to insist on ten wins since he knew he would blast Karpov away easily.
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  playground player: <Travis Bickle> <circus geek?> You gotta see <Nightmare Alley>, starring Tyrone Power. It's a movie all about how a big star becomes a circus geek.
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  kevin86: White's g-pawn will win the day.
Oct-10-12  schnarre: ...*Wonders if whoever thought up the pun was a Steven Spielberg fan*
Oct-10-12  Layson: I get the feeling the real E.T. in this game is that rook on d5. Stranded in a lost world, with no way home.
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  Dr. Funkenstein: Kevin86: Actually, I think it's the a & b pawns that win day. I imagine the plan after Kxf5 is to go back, play Rxe2 to go to the pawn ending, then use the g-pawn to force Black's king back so that the double b pawns can be taken.
Mar-20-13  nowo: < chess61: <Travis> Maybe it is a good idea to quote Kasparov on this issue: “I think that Fischer, after the Karpov-Spassky match, probably lost faith in his ability to beat Karpov. It doesn’t mean that Fischer was inferior to Karpov, but for Fischer, psychological confidence was everything. And looking at what Karpov did to Spassky in 1974, I think shocked Fischer, because he knew Spassky’s strengths and he could recognize that Spassky played in Leningrad better than Reykjavik, and he had no chance”. >

No Chance - are you kidding!? One of the greatest chess players of all time - arguably the greatest of all time - with no chance? Wow, that's some accuation. Maybe Spassky played better in Leningrad than in Reykjavik because of inferior competition (i.e. Fischer's absence). There are many theories about why Fischer quit playing. But 2 years after Fischer dissappeared seems to be no time accuse him of ducking an opponent - especially since he never ducked one before. Even Spassky said that Fischer would have beat Karpov in their match, before losing in a rematch. But "no chance" - that's some statement...

Mar-20-13  Olavi: "No chance" refers to Karpov-Spassky 1974.
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  perfidious: In retrospect, it should be mentioned that Karpov himself fancied Spassky's chances entering their match.

Not sure why <nowo> believes the level of competition in the '73 Soviet final inferior, what with all the top players of the time mandated to take part in Leningrad. The fact that Fischer did not play is a specious argument at best.

Mar-01-14  celtrusco: <paavoh: At move 25, Karpov's pawn structure was just like Grandpa's teeth - black and scattered.>Yes! Looks really like that. But if I play a nimzo , and gives me a chance to break his pawn structure, I'll do it. If not, I'll play another defense.
May-24-14  The Last Straw: Grr. It's so annoying to come back at an "unfamiliar" game only to find that you commented on it more than 1 year ago.
May-24-14  WDenayer: Fischer did not play Karpov because he was afraid of him.
Nov-11-14  kamagong24: Whatever others say against 'Torre Fans'they cannot stop Filipinos from praising Torre the way Indians praise Anand. Im a Torre fan by the way hahaha! Lupet ni GM Torre dito! parang si Lito Lapid lang kung humataw!!!
Dec-16-14  kamagong24: a priceless win by GM Torre :p
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  Zhbugnoimt: The Black rook takes a pawn on d5 early in the opening... to not make another move and get eaten by a White bishop in the middlegame. You'd think Karpov was White and Torre was Black.
Sep-09-16  Virgil A: Fantastic to the end.
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