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| Jan-10-07 |
| Fisheremon: <Octavia: according to his book, Karpov made 2 tactical mistakes, one after another: 16... Qa5? Instead he thought 16...Qb6! 17 Be3 Qa5 18 Bg5 Rfe8 was better. It would avoid the tactical white possibilities later in the game. See his other game against Kamsky with this opening.> Seemingly a typo, or wrong numeration of moves. I might understand 16...Qc7?!: better 16...Qb6 If 17.Be3 Qa5 18.Bg5 , then Black has a tactical variation with equality 18...Nxd4. But White could play 18.Bc4 with pressure on d5. From the game obviously 17...Qa5?, but 17...Qb6?! helpless too with 18.d5 forcing Black a pawn down. Next 21...Bxc3? A better chance for Black to survive was 21...Qc7 22.Qd3+ Kg8 23.Rxd7 Rcd8 24.Rxc7 Rxd3. |
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| Chris1Clark: In a situation like this at move 27 with a queen and a rook facing two rooks and a knight surely a rook exchange to get rid of blacks capability seems a simple maxim.
28. Rxe8 Rxe8 29. g3 black now needs to look after the knight and the two pawns on the a-file look dead as dodo's. Well OTB is often different and these guys clearly felt a bit of caution. Good win in the end though do like Gata's style usually. |
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Jan-10-07
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| kevin86: Karpov seemed off his game. First,he loses his queen for rook and knight. Second,he fails to hold up his barricade of rooks on his fourth row. Finally,white is able to root out the king and win the game. |
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| alexmagnus: Got To Come, Ski. |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| Themofro: A nice show of patience by Kamsky and nice middle game technique. |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| danp01851: why not 12...Nxd5 ? My lousy computer program (KChess Elite) can't find anything wrong with it. |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| themadhair: As well as Kamsky played this he was handed it by Karpov. Although this game is only half the story. Later in the match Karpov uncorked 12...Qb6! with a revenge result Kamsky vs Karpov, 1996 It is these types of battles that make matches so engrossing. |
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| Jan-10-07 |
| Dr.Lecter: Why not 21...Qc7?
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| Jan-10-07 |
| themadhair: <Why not 21...Qc7?> There is nothing objectively wrong with Qc7. It just happens that in this position that Qb6 is the stronger move. Qc7 has the slight drawback of putting the queen in the line of fire of a white rook that will be placed on the c-file, costing you at least an extra move. On b6 the black queen eyes the b2 pawn and allows the black rooks to take the c-file. But most importantly it puts pressure on the important d5 pawn which is the crux of Karpov's whole idea. The isolated queens pawn is theoritical minefield in chess. On one hand the owner of the isolated d-pawn will get freedom to move their pieces due to the space afforded to them by the isolani which can also have a cramping effect on the opponent. Its weakness is that in the endgame it be easily attacked. There is no better player in the world in exploiting the weakness on an isolani than Karpov. His Qb6 idea may not look all that special, but you have to realise that it as part of a very deep plan to exploit Kamsky's d-pawn weakness. |
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| Jan-11-07 |
| Fabiow: In portuguese "GATA" means CAT
=P |
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| Jun-02-07 |
| shanbopop: I played Kamsky in a few blitz games and lost of course all of them.The best i could do was 32 moves in the last game.LOL..As for Karpov losing this match..he was 98 years old when it took place!LOL |
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Jun-02-07
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| chancho: <shanbopop> Karpov lost this game, yes, but HE won the match... |
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| Jun-20-07 |
| shanbopop: Of course,i know that but a prime Karpov wouldnt lose a single game vs Kamsky.Gata was NEVER as dedicated to the game as Karpov is.Surely you agree? |
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| plang: <Of course,i know that but a prime Karpov wouldnt lose a single game vs Kamsky.Gata was NEVER as dedicated to the game as Karpov is.Surely you agree?> Are we talking about the same Kamsky who had recently defeated Kramnik (3-0) and Anand in matches? In the mid 90s Kamsky was a pretty tough customer and was capable of beating anyone on any given day. |
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| Jun-20-07 |
| Jim Bartle: Kamsky was totally dedicated, maybe obsessively so, until he abruptly quit. His father made sure of that in no uncertain terms. Kamsky got hammered in the 96 match, but he did win three games. |
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| Aug-09-07 |
| aleister23: Ok Kamsky was never will ever be better than Karpov, what you guys dont understand is that Karpov in his prime was unbeatable, and yet past his prime as chess life said (which is nothing compared to an european chess magazine) karpov still unbeatable, Kamsky, Shabalov, Nakamura,(all of them jokes!) Ehlvest(according to chess magazine "a prodigy") yet Karpov beat him 8 to 0 with eight draws!!!, come on for pete's sake
and I am not kidding! |
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| Aug-09-07 |
| cotdt: karpov in his prime? and when was this? his rating was actually higher in the mid-90s than it has ever been, and he was quite strong during this time. |
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| Aug-10-07 |
| RookFile: Well, most people figure that from around 1978-1981 or so Karpov was at his best. |
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| Aug-10-07 |
| cotdt: <RookFile>I couldn't really tell by the games I've seen. Maybe the competition was just weaker during that time. |
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| Aug-10-07 |
| aleister23: Karpov will always be on his prime, unlike botvinnik, that when he got older in USSR vs the World in 1970 was serving the players coffee!
I dont know why people hate karpov, or say :" Kasparov is better than Karpov" Kasparov's game is plain and dull, now Kasparov is past his prime......... |
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| lostemperor: So it was Botvinnik's coffee then that made the USSR beat the world by a small margin! He showed that his collective ideology was for real. |
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| lostemperor: If only Fischer had served the world coffee, they would have crushed the Soviets :-p |
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| Aug-12-07 |
| aleister23: hahah If Fischer would have served the coffee he would be now in jail for poisoning both the grandmasters from russia and the world lol |
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| May-23-08 |
| ezmerin: This game was carefully analyzed in 'Exploiting Small Advantages' - a book by Eduard Gufeld. He thinks 24...Bg4 is an inaccuracy, which allows white to keep his rook on the board and mount kingside offensive. Gufeld gives 24...Rfe8 and Bg4 next, with one extra exchange that simplifies Black defensive task. Gufeld praises 25th, 28th, 45th and 46th White moves. There is no arguing with that. White pieces can do little damage without aid of the pawns. And three of four 'Gufeld exclamation moves' are pawn moves. |
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| Sep-11-09 |
| tonsillolith: Rybka seems to think Karpov could have gotten away with 12...Nxe4. Analysis by Rybka 3 1-cpu 32-bit :
1. = (0.17): 12...Nxe4 13.Qxe4 f5 14.Qe3 Bf6 15.Bc3 Qd6 16.Rac1 Ne7 17.Ne5 Nd5 18.Qg3 Nxc3 19.bxc3 Bxe5 20.dxe5 Qd5 21.c4 Qa5
2. ² (0.27): 12...Qb6 13.Rfd1 Nd5 14.Nc3 Rd8 15.Na4 Qc7 16.Rac1 Nf4 17.Bxf4 |
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