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| Apr-12-05 | | AdrianP: Similarly, DB starts off thinking about axb5, but changes its mind to Rec1 whereupon it times out. In this instance, I think DB failed to predict Garry's ...Qc7 so had to start from scratch. |
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| Apr-12-05 | | RookFile: Ah well. Games like this remind us
how chess resistance, according
to Kasparov, is just so much STRONGER
than it was in years past.
LOL! |
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| Apr-12-05 | | RookFile: Take for example, Kasparov's
comment about the first Fischer -
Spassky game of 1992:
"This fine game, I know, made a great
impression on the chess world. But
not on me. Yes, Fischer played well,
but Black's play was too helpless:
'gifts' such as 19... Nh7? 30... f5?
and 33... Kf6? are not made by the
leading grandmasters of today."
This coming from the same guy who
resigns in a drawn position.
LOL! |
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Jun-01-05
 | | WannaBe: This is the 'famous' draw game where he resigned? |
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Jun-01-05
 | | keypusher: Yes, that's right. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | themindset: i think it's pretty funny here that so many people here are feigning as if they could see the perpetual so very easily, and asking why kasparov didn't see it... yeah, right. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | Stefan Lukke: This match was extremely contraversial as i believe Kasparov thought there was a man behind the IBM machine, almost like the "Turk" in that respect. I remember seeing his face at the presentation, he was convinced there was a strong player pointing out various subtleties that Kasparov thought the Computer would not see. Does anyone know much more about this? |
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| Jun-01-05 | | arifattar: 37. Be4 is the MOVE in question. |
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Jun-01-05
 | | lostemperor: The move that made kasparov "lose the match" <37. Be4>. Kasparov called it "the hand of God" refering to Maradonna's goal with the hand against England in football. It not necessary had to be a strong player to make that move and it perhaps wasn't even the strongest move but he considered it too human. And with so much the secrecy surrounding Deep Blue I agree they had something to hide. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | Heavy Metal Thunder: That'd be right, Weinstein's so full of himself only "God" can beat him now. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | arifattar: It is unfortunate that all this media obsession with the 'Hand of God' goal diverts attention from the beauty of the goal Maradona scored just 4 minutes later. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | nigelrose: Even though 45...Qe3 loses a piece, White can't prevent a perpetual on the Black squares, isn't that right? But the reason K was in such a poor position in the first place, and needing such a lucky resource, was surely his reply to the 37 Be4 move, 37...Ra2 which concedes the a file and lets White in. Wouldn't 37...Rcb8, for instance, (if 38Ra5 then Bc7) have kept the file and ensured a draw? Doesn't seem fair to blame the computer and IBM people for that. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | BurningSun: the draw that kasparov missed was very eleborated. it was found by hordes of chess fan following the game live in the internet and it took them several hours of talking and analising among themselves. Fischer never have Top of the line Computer as opponnent. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | JohnBoy: <lostemperor> - who is Weinstein? I hope your answer will indicate what it he/she/it has to do with this discussion. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | ughaibu: JohnBoy: Weinstein was the name to which Kasparov was born. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | Jack Kerouac: hydra vs. deep blue.never happen, but would be worth a match. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | halcyonteam: A game supposed to be drawn? Don't think so. Black is lost, computers are far better at endgames. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | sharkbenjamin: No other "World Champion" has resigned a drawn position. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | ThomYorke: There are many people here that envy kasparov so much and they don´t hide it. |
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| Jun-01-05 | | kevin86: Man vs machine has been going on for a long time-all the way back to ancient Rome and Greece-not to be confused from an Italian McDonalds:Roman Grease. Kaspy flunked this test.
BTW-Does Deep Blue play blindfold-or does the Deep Blue See.? |
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| Jun-01-05 | | AdrianP: <chessgames.com> I posted here the extracts from DB's logs for the two critical (suspicious) positions - why were they deleted? |
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| Jun-01-05 | | child of my tears: What's so human about 37 Be4? The bishop is not doing much at c2 but at e4 it blockades the passed e pawn, protects d5 and puts a distant threat on a8. Not knocking those who doubt, but I don't get this "human" thing. Then again, I am 1000 elo below Kasparov :) |
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| Jun-01-05 | | Jaymthetactician: hydra vs. deep blue.never happen, but would be worth a match. Hydra would trounce Deep Blue, however, Fritz 7 has recently defeated my Deep Shredder 9 in an engine match, so perhaps Deep Blue may stand a chance yet, also Deep Fritz is stronger then Deep Blue. remember seeing his face at the presentation, he was convinced there was a strong player pointing out various subtleties that Kasparov thought the Computer would not see.
Does anyone know much more about this?
Yes,I think the man may have been Karpov, OR Deep Blue could actually think. 'gifts' such as 19... Nh7? 30... f5?
and 33... Kf6? are not made by the
leading grandmasters of today."
This coming from the same guy who
resigns in a drawn position.
Also the same guy who Spassky defeated 10 years earlier Kasparov vs Spassky, 1983
Also note the many draws between the two, Kasparov only defeated Spassky when Spassky was past his prime, though I think Kasparov is the better champion, also check out Kasparov's analyisis of NN vs Greco, 1625
the game 1. e4 e5
2. f4 f5
3. exf5 Qh4+
4. g3 Qe7
5. Qh5+ Kd8
6. fxe5 Qxe5+
7. Be2 Nf6
8. Qf3 d5 is -.80 for black (I would play as black from move 3 either exf4 or 3...Qf6! as played by Shredder in a shootout), while Kasparov's analyisis is 7. Qe2 Qxf5
8. d4 Nf6
9. Bh3,Qd5 -.60 better for black.
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