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| May-23-08 |
| Petrosianic: <Wow. Why did Fischer resign?> Cause he's losing a full piece at the end and Spassky has a superior position to boot (better placed major pieces, Fischer's king is draftier. There's no real compensation for the piece. <It was quite shocking how Spassky made apparently bad strategical decisions like allowing bad pawn structure, king safety, and trading off pieces, but I guess he was good enough to see it would benefit him in the end.> No, he just got a bit lucky. He played a 19th century opening in true 19th century style (moves like 9. Nc3, instead of 9. c3 like most would play now), but it really shouldn't have worked. Fischer just got a bit distracted at the end and lost his way with all the heavy artillery flying around the open center. A lucky escape for Spassky. |
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| Sep-29-08 |
| BraveUlysses: Fischer's bishop is lost. Games like this fry my mind trying to imagine how these guys tiptoe through each others' brilliant minefields. Strategically, Spassky established control of the centre at the cost of a pawn and managed to survive and win. |
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| Sep-30-08 |
| jovack: fischer got locked in
in an interview, he claimed "he pushed too hard for the win", and now that I see this, I have to agree with that
i think fischer was better at the start, and slowly put himself in a worse and worse positioni guess he got his revenge in 72 |
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| Dec-21-08 |
| WhiteRook48: Oh I thought that the black pawn promoted on f5 to a plus sign. |
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| May-02-09 |
| WhiteRook48: a bust to the king's gambit |
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Jun-05-09
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| zanshin: Rybka 3 analysis suggests Fischer was winning until move 26: click for larger view [-0.26] d=19 26...b6 27.a4 Ba3 28.a5 Qd8 29.Qxd8 Rxd8 30.axb6 axb6 31.Rc4 Rg3 32.Kf1 Bb2 33.Ne5 Rd1 34.Ke2 Rd2 35.Kf1 (0:06.30) 52831kN <26...Rf8?> blocks an escape square for the Bishop allowing it to be trapped after <27.Re5>. At least that's my interpretation.  click for larger view [+2.85] d=17 27.Re5 Rd8 28.Qe4 Qg6 (0:01.55) 16057kN Even with Rybka, I find this game hard to understand. |
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| Jul-08-09 |
| Everett: <zanshin> A quarter of a pawn advantage is "winning?" |
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Jul-08-09
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| zanshin: <Everett: <zanshin> A quarter of a pawn advantage is "winning?"> Maybe 'winning' is too strong - how about slight advantage? |
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| Jul-10-09 |
| Everett: Agreed. Quite a difference between the two. |
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Jul-11-09
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| whiteshark: Did Fischer bust the <King's Gambit> or did the <King's Gambit> bust Fischer? |
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| Jul-31-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Fischer "Spassky won because of an oversight, not virtue of the King's Gambit!" |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| kooley782: Well, if one has an "advantage", he is winning, because if both players play the best moves, the side with the advantage (no matter how slight) will win. |
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| Nov-29-09 |
| markwell: If that were the case, kooley, black would lose almost every single game played at a championship level. |
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| Dec-01-09 |
| kooley782: Well, that's the question-whether or not White's slight advantage in the opening could be converted into a win. So perhaps I was a little off when I said that every advantage NO MATTER HOW SLIGHT could be converted into a win. But with that out of the picture there is no way to argue otherwise. |
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Dec-03-09
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| muwatalli: i read this on wikipedia "After Bobby Fischer lost a 1960 game at Mar del Plata to Boris Spassky, in which Spassky played the Kieseritzky Gambit, Fischer left in tears and promptly went to work at devising a new defense to the King's Gambit. In Fischer's 1961 article, "A Bust to the King's Gambit", he brashly claimed, "In my opinion the King's Gambit is busted. It loses by force."[4] Fischer concluded the article with the famously arrogant line, "Of course White can always play differently, in which case he merely loses differently. (Thank you, Weaver Adams!)"[5] The article became famous.[6][7]" did fischer really leave crying after losing the game? |
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| Dec-04-09 |
| PaulLovric: is this the game that fischer was so dissapointed in losing, that he spent considerable time afterwards analysing/refuting/writing about the opening: "Bobby Fischer busts the kings gambit" ? |
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| Dec-04-09 |
| PaulLovric: opps ishould have read the previous comment |
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Dec-16-09
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| SirChrislov: Fischer's article on death of the K's gambit:
http://checkersisfortramps.blogspot... |
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Jan-12-10
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| maxi: Fischer annotates this game in My 60 Memorable Games. He says that he had an advantage until move 23... g4, to which he gives a question mark. Then Spassky played 24. f2 and Bobby answered with 24... e7, after which he makes the comment, "Threatening ... h4". I assume this threat and the clearing of the path for the c8 Rook to go to g8 (and take part on the attack on the White King: <I thought Black could whip up an attack along the g-file>, writes Bobby) were the reasons for Bobby's 24... e7; at least he does not give any other in the book. On the other hand, this move leaves the Bishop in a square open to attack; as a matter of fact Bobby lost this Bishop (and thus the game) in just a few moves. Is 24... e7 a good move?It turns out that it is an excellent move, especially in the line followed in the game. Its strength comes from the possibility of playing the Bishop to f6 and having it act on the crucial a1-h8 diagonal. After 24... e7, 25. e4, Bobby played 25... g5, and he tells us he should have taken a draw by repetition starting with 25... d1+. But there is nothing wrong with 25... g5, and it holds the small advantage Black has, as we shall soon see. The game followed 26. d4 f8, and it is now, after the awful 26... f8, that the game is lost. Instead, after 26...b6, for example, Black is fine, and if 27. e5? f6!. The real difficulty with the move 26... f8 is in the line 26... f8, 27. e5 f6 28. d6 attacking hanging Rook in f8. Deprived of the tactical possibility of pinning the White Rook in e5, Black is left defenseless and loses immediately as in the game. |
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| Jan-12-10 |
| Petrosianic: <Fischer's article on death of the K's gambit:> An embarrassing example of Fischer's lack of objectivity around that time. The King's Gambit does not lose by force, as Fischer himself demonstrated by playing it three times in his career, and winning all three. |
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Jan-12-10
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| TheFocus: <Petrosianic> <Fischer's article on death of the K's gambit:> <An embarrassing example of Fischer's lack of objectivity around that time. The King's Gambit does not lose by force, as Fischer himself demonstrated by playing it three times in his career, and winning all three.> I think Bobby meant the KG with Nf3 was busted. Didn't he play the Bc4 variation in those 3 games?. In the 1964 simultaneous tour, he did play the Nf3 variations and a whole lot of Evans Gambits, too. |
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Jan-12-10
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| maxi: I have a suspicion that the 1972 Fischer would have not for a minute believed that 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf 3.Cf3 d6 refutes either this variation of the King's Gambit nor the KG itself. |
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| Jan-12-10 |
| Petrosianic: Yes, he did play 3. Bc4, and so he might still have thought that 3. Nf3 lost by force. But it doesn't. |
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| Jan-12-10 |
| Petrosianic: Just looking at the Opening Explorer. Of the games in this database, the results with the new variation are pretty similar to the old. After 1. e4 e4 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5, it's
White: 48.8%
Draw: 12.5%
Black: 38.7%
After 1. e4 e4 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 d6, it's
White: 46%
Draw: 13.7%
Black: 40.2% |
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Jan-18-10
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| maxi: Good practical point. |
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