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|Nov-13-08|| ||agb2002: I saw 35... Bd2 but thought that 35... Bg7 was stronger without paying due attention to the former. Conclusion: laziness is the worst sin...|
|Nov-13-08|| ||patzer2: Kramnik's 29...Qe8! appears to be a decisive turning point in this game, giving Black a clear advantage with the initiative and a strong attack.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||njchess: I got this one pretty quickly. 33. ... Qh3+ was fairly obvious, as it was the only real forcing move. White must move 34. Kg1 or lose his queen.|
At this point, some players had trouble. In order to find the next two moves for Black, you would have had to have noticed two things. First, White has very little control of the dark squares since, currently, his knight and bishop are light square controlling. Second, after the 34. Kg1, White's queen and king rest on dark squares.
Given the above, Black's idea of pinning White's queen to the king with his bishop is straightforward. But, to do that, Black must first move his queen. 34. ... Qc3 is arrived at because it is the only safe, dark square that covers the bishop on e3.
White's reply is practically forced since any move other than 35. Re1 loses material. But, again, Re1 is subject to attack by Black's dark square bishop from d2. After 35. Re1 Bd2, White cannot avoid losing material, which at this point, means losing the game. Good piece of tactics from Kramnik.
As an aside, this was a pretty passive game by White, and he paid for it. White parried Black's queen side play nicely, but in the face of Black's imminent f5 thrust to break up the center, he castled king side. It's not really a bad move, but its not the strongest move since it does not pressure Black in any way.
Since Black is under no pressure to play f5 immediately, 17. ... g6 strengthens his grip on f5. After the tactical moves of 18. Qe2 (better was Qd3) Bd7 19. Rfa1 Bh6, White misses his last chance to hold the center when he plays 20. g3? (intending a later f4). Better would have been Rd1, or Nce3 followed by f3. From move 20 on, it's all about Black's steamroller pawns and White's attempts to stop them.
Some passive play by White allows Kramnik to gain the advantage and seal the game with some forceful moves. Nicely played by Black.
|Nov-13-08|| ||gawain: <The third move admittedly was easy to see for myself, but I failed to recognize just how threatening the move was.> Yes Patriot, this is exactly what happened to me. |
I quickly saw the first three moves, reaching the position in which Lutz resigned. And then I hallucinated. I thought W could continue 36 Re2 Qc1+ 37 Qf1. Ha! How can someone see the clever moves and miss the utterly obvious? Maybe I should have had a second cup of coffee this morning.
|Nov-13-08|| ||patzer2: Perhaps White should have played 22. Qh5, when 22...Bg7 23. Nce3 to = appears to give him active play and winning chances.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||NakoSonorense: <DoubleCheck><I think you meant Bd2 :)> Yes! Thanks! That's what I meant. I still don't have the chess board tattooed on my mind...|
|Nov-13-08|| ||mindmaster: I got everything right except for the 35. Re1 I thougt white can resign after 34. ... Qc3|
|Nov-13-08|| ||Woody Wood Pusher: I saw 33...Bh3+ 34.Kg1,Qc3 but wasn't sure after this as I thought white could just resign.|
35.Re1 only keeps him alive 1 more move and hopefully I would have seen 35..Bd2 in the game (or 35..Bg7 ).
|Nov-13-08|| ||Patriot: <Woody Wood Pusher> I think 35...Bg7 may be = as Johnlspouge pointed out after 36.Rd1 but certainly isn't decisive as 35...Bg7 36.Rd1 Bxd4 37.Qxd4+ Qxd4 38.Rxd4 Rxf3 and 39.Rf4 or 39.Rd1. White has two pawns for the bishop which is not resignable.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||kevin86: It appears as if white was put in handcuffs-and then tickled.|
The rook is attack but must not leave the file on penalty of 36...♗e3,winning the queen or the first rank on penalty of mate.
A possible conclusion:
36 ♖e4 ♕c1+ 37 ♖e1 ♗xe1 38 ♕e2 ♗xg3+ 39 ♕d1 ♕xd1+ 40 ♗xd1 ♖f1#
|Nov-13-08|| ||zb2cr: Hi <kevin86>,
You wrote: "It appears as if white was put in handcuffs-and then tickled."
On your suggested possible conclusion, I still think that the line which <notyetagm> suggested before this was a problem is best--if the Rook leaves the first rank, 36. ... Qa1+. I'm at the office and do not have an analysis program handy, but I suspect it would show that the Queen check from a1 is stronger.
|Nov-13-08|| ||tatarch: This would also be a good sunday puzzle to start at move 31.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||YouRang: Got it. Our queen is in take and unless we find a strong tactic, it looks like we're facing a lost endgame. Therefore, trading queens or moving our queen to safety doesn't seem promising.|
However, on obvious tactic is 33...Bh3! forcing 34.Kg1 (or else white loses his Q). What does this accomplish? It sets up other tactics!
One is that now black's K and Q are on a diagonal that can be pinned by our DSB (which happens to be well-placed for that purpose). Another is that white's K is facing back-rank dangers now that g2 is and f1 are under our control.
To activate the DSB pin, we need to vacate our Q from e3 so we can put the bishop there, but do it with attack so white doesn't have time to defend. It's not hard to find something to attack with our queen, and again, 34...Qc3 attacking the rook (and the knight) is the clear choice.
White has one way to save his rook and defend against the bishop pin (...Be3), and thats 35.Re1.
This is the first time I had to really think hard. However, in the absence of any other useful ideas, I eventually considered the blunt attack on the rook with 35...Bd2!, and somewhat to my surprise, it leaves white helpless. :-)
The rook can't leave the e-file since it's guarding against ...Be3, nor should it leave the 1st rank since it's defending against back-rank vulnerabilities, eg. 36.Re2 Qc1+ 37.Re1 Bxe1
|Nov-13-08|| ||beginner64: Holy smokes. I saw 33..Bh3+ 34. Kg1 Qc3. 35. Re1 (to prevent against Be3)|
BUT, I did not see the all important move 35..Bd2.
|Nov-13-08|| ||beginner64: Must say that 28. Qa2 comes across as a *pretty* bad move. 28. Qb2 would at least put it on an attack diagonal.|
Any engine comparison of 28. Qa2/Qb2?
|Nov-13-08|| ||amateur1971: got it 2day...|
|Nov-13-08|| ||szajjbus: Does the line ..33.Bh3+ 34. Kg1 Rc8 also lead to win? The plan is Rc1+.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||skemup: I saw this line (played in game) but i forgot about it :) and starded thinking about line 35..Bh7.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||SpoiltVictorianChild: Saw the first two moves but thought white would just resign there.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||YouRang: <szajjbus: Does the line ..33.Bh3+ 34. Kg1 Rc8 also lead to win? The plan is Rc1+.>|
How would you proceed after 33...Bh3+ 34.Kg1 Rc8 <35.Rd1>? This seems to kill the ...Rc1+ threat while guarding our knight, and our rook is now guarded by the bishop.
I think 34...Rc8 gives white time to regroup, whereas 34...Qc3, by attacking the unguarded rook, doesn't.
|Nov-13-08|| ||ruzon: I also saw the first two moves and then correctly guessed the reply to 35. ♖e1.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||Eggman: I wonder if this puzzle threw some people a bit because it contains no sacrifices, only one offer of a sacrifice on the first move.|
|Nov-13-08|| ||neilmcmurdo: Like a lot of others I was initially drawn to 35 ... Bg7 which seems to win a piece. However, this is a much worse move than 35 ... Bd2 which win easily.|
35 ... Bg7 seems to lead to a black being a piece up but in a drawn endgame because of the two passed pawns.
|Nov-13-08|| ||akapovsky: SOLVED! Bh3+, Qc3 it's all over.|
|Aug-06-17|| ||thegoodanarchist: Who Lutz the dawgs out? Who, who who who?|
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