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|Jun-26-06|| ||sixfeetunder: Well yes but technically the last Tsar of Russia was Mihhail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_...|
|Jun-26-06|| ||kevin86: This mate is not a true epaulette mate:here is a true one:|
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The rooks block the only escape squares and the queen guards the two squares in front of the rooks.
|Jun-26-06|| ||RookFile: Well, in general, an 'epaulette' is a shoulder ornament, i.e. the two medal clusters you see on a military uniform. That's what the rooks rook like, next to his royal highness.|
|Jun-26-06|| ||CapablancaFan: Jacques Mieses vs Frank James Marshall
Danish Gambit: Accepted
1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 <This introduces the Danish Gambit.Here white offers a pawn in exchange for space and rapid development. It's not necessarily bad to accept the offer, but further developmental delays by black can cause lasting problems.>3...dxc3 4.Bc4 cxb2? <This is going too far. The material defecit white has is easily countered by superior development and space advantage.4...Nc6 was probably a better try.> 5.Bxb2 d6 6.Ne2 Nc6 7.O-O Be6 8.Bd5!<Even at this stage the trickery begins.> 8...Nf6<If 8...Bxd5? 9.exd5 and now the e-file is opened up to the black king for white's pieces to utilize.> 9.Qb3<Now threatening Bxe6 and Qxb7.> 9...Qc8 10.Nf4!< Creating all kinds of threats...11.Bxe6,11.Nxe6,11.Bxf6 Mieses can literally take his pick here.> 10...Nd8<A sad retreat.> 11.Bxf6 gxf6 12.Nh5<Threatening Nxf6> 12...c6<Marshall has to do something, he can no longer afford to stay passive.> 13.Re1!<Now if 13...cxd5? 14.exd5 regains the piece with interest.Note that this bishop will be left enprise for several moves.> 13...Be7 14.Qf3 Rg8 15.Nxf6+ Bxf6 16.Qxf6 cxd5<It's no longer safe for the king to remain on the e8 square, this exchange process is just to help facilitate an exit route for the king.> 17. exd5 Rg6 18. Qh8+ Kd7 19.Nc3!<Notice how white dosen't bother capturing the bishop because black's position is so bad, even at this stage if the bishop moves it only leads to disaster beginning with Qe8+.> 19...Bxd5<Desperation.The bishop throws itself upon the sword, the purpose is which to clear the c6 and e6 squares. Too little, too late.> 20.Qe8+ Kc7 21.Nxd5+ Kb8 22.Rac1<Marshall could have resigned here.> 22...Nc6 23.Rxc6 bxc6 24.Rb1#
Here is yet another classic example of when an opponent chooses materialism over development. This is what Marshall did and he paid the price dearly for it. An excellent performance from Mieses.
|Jun-26-06|| ||Confuse: <WannaBe> thanks for that, pretty funny stuff on Ivan the terrible : )|
|Jun-26-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: I see this is called the Danish Gambit. But what is the Center Game opening then?|
|Jun-26-06|| ||sixfeetunder: Center game is when white plays 3.Qxd4 instead of c3.|
|Jun-26-06|| ||Andrew Chapman: I think 23.Qxc6 also works. Takes one move longer but prettier in a way|
|Jun-26-06|| ||Sneaky: No!! 23.Qxc6?? gives up everything! Sure, Black could be a doofus and play 23...bxc6?? and get mated, but this is Frank Marshall we're talking about, he'd play 23...Qxc6! in a second, and have a fairly level position once he gets his rook out of the corner.|
|Jun-26-06|| ||CapablancaFan: <Andrew Chapman><I think 23.Qxc6 also works> No it dosen't. That line allows black to escape. If 23.Qxc6? if black responds 23...bxc6 THEN the mating attack would work but...if black responds 23...Qxc6! 24.Rxc6 <Remember the queen is covering the e8 square> 24...bxc6 and now the b7 square provides an escape route for the king.|
|Jun-26-06|| ||CapablancaFan: <Sneaky> We must have posted this about the same time.|
|Jun-26-06|| ||Sneaky: I see that. But I hit the button first, so in the annals of chessgames history you will be scorned. ;-)|
|Jun-26-06|| ||dakgootje: propose a draw ^^|
|Jun-26-06|| ||al wazir: <Ger7ry: Anyone know how to pronounce "Mieses"?> The German pronunciation would be "MEE-zes." Since he took British citizenship in 1938, he might very well have changed it so that it rhymed with "pieces." Or seeing that the Brits pronounce "Heinz" to rhyme with "beans," maybe it became "Mices" (as in the plural of "mice").|
I think you're allowed to pronounce it however you like. Most Americans pronounce 9 out of 10 foreign names wrong anyway.
|Jun-26-06|| ||schnarre: Another Devilish Danish!|
|Jun-27-06|| ||offramp: < al wazir: seeing that the Brits pronounce "Heinz" to rhyme with "beans," ...>|
In Britain, Heinz is pronounces the same as 'hines'. The Germans pronounce it 'hyntz'.
|Jun-27-06|| ||al wazir: <offramp>: I'm not sure where you live, but if you live in the U.S. or the U.K. you're probably familiar with Heinz's (Heintz's?) 57 varieties of catsup, etc.|
In Britain their advertising slogan used to be "Heinz as in 'beans'."
|Jun-27-06|| ||offramp: < al wazir: <offramp>: I'm not sure where you live, but if you live in the U.S. or the U.K. you're probably familiar with Heinz's (Heintz's?) 57 varieties of catsup, etc.
In Britain their advertising slogan used to be "Heinz as in 'beans'.">|
If you click on my name you will see that I live in London.
I believe I am fully qualified to be able to answer the question:
"How do British people sat 'Heinz'."
|Jun-27-06|| ||al wazir: <offramp>: So you dispute what I say about the advertising slogan? I can't tell from your profile how old you are. If you are under 40 the slogan may be before your time. And who knows, such is the weight of America's cultural preponderance that the pronunciation may have changed. After all, you guys speak American now.|
BTW, is Mt Ararat Lodge in Richmond? If so, I've probably walked and driven past it many times.
|Jun-28-06|| ||offramp: I remember the advertisement perfectly.
"A million housewives every day
Pick up a can of beans and say
Beanz meanz Heinz!"
Heinz was pronounced so as to rhyme with 'finds'.
|Jun-29-06|| ||Ger7ry: The thing is, "Jacques" is not a German name, but French. So perhaps, even though he lived in Germany, he came from a French family and pronounced his name as it would be pronounced in French. But I'm just speculating. I was hoping someone here would know.|
|Jun-29-06|| ||offramp: <al wazir: <offramp>: ... Is Mt Ararat Lodge in Richmond? If so, I've probably walked and driven past it many times.>|
Mt Ararat Lodge - a mainly Armenian Lodge - meets in Sutton, England.
|Jan-01-12|| ||profK: Marshall bashing in 24 moves, I like it !|
|Jan-13-13|| ||Cemoblanca: FJM looks like an NN in this game! ;) Very nice moves by JM, for example: 13.Re1!, 19.Nc3!, 23.Rxc6!|
|Jan-13-13|| ||morfishine: Looks like 9...Bxd5 was a must for Black: 10.exd5 Na5 11.Qa4+ c6 12.dxc6 Nxc6 13.Nd4 Qd7 is at least playable for Black|
How could Marshall Mieses that?
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