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| Jan-13-06 | | PaulLovric: hello here, i am fifth |
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Jan-13-06
 | | OhioChessFan: I'd bet getting a Knight to e5 against a Dutch has a really high winning % for White. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Gowe: Uno escribe, uno analiza, uno desgasta el cerebro como el agua al sedimentar una roca maciza, para qué, para que se acerque un desconocido llamado PaulLovric y diga "hello here, i am fifth". Yo le respondo, váyase a chatear a otro lado, que aquí queremos pensar, váyase con sus bufonadas, con sus niñerías, sus vicios de infante a una sala de chat, que aquí sobra. Solo sobra. Siga el ejemplo de Patzer 2, querido primate, que el lo guiará por la senda del pensamiento y el análisis. (If someone want to translate it I would aprecciate it) |
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Jan-13-06
| | OhioChessFan: <(If someone want to translate it I would aprecciate it)> Sure thing, <Gowe> When translated, your post read: "Some people are living endorsements for the ignore feature." |
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| Jan-13-06 | | itz2000: Hello
Can anyone tell me what would happen in the openning if 6..dxc4?why not 6..dxc4? |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Pawn Ambush: The simple 7.Qa4+ and Qc4 leaving white the choice of either Nc3 or Nd2. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Ezzy: I agree with <Gowe> I think Olafsson played a great game. 21 Nxb7 was probably not 100% sound, but it unbalanced the position, and white was a piece down. This wasn't so bad, as white had complete control of the centre and queenside, and had black completely tied down. White also had a strong lasting initiative! I bet topalov would be proud of 21 Nxb7. Black had difficult defensive problems to find over the board, which is exremely difficult in this type of position. <Khense> I don't believe in luck. Olafsson set Chandler some problems, and Chandler was unable to find the answers. That is what over the board chess is about. Most of Tal's sacrifices were unsound, but his opponents had trouble finding the answers. Tal was not lucky to win these games, he was a skilful chess genius who saw deeper into the position than his opponents. <why not 6..dxc4?> It gives up a central pawn and diminishes blacks control of e4 which is the main strategy in the Dutch, hence 1..f5. Unfortunately, black didn't utilise his e4 in this game, prefering moves like 18..Ne8?! instead of 18..Ne4. <OhioChessFan:> I don't understand why <Gowe> has upset you so much |
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| Jan-13-06 | | nuwanda: what about 23...Qc7 ? I can't believe that White has enough for the piece |
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| Jan-13-06 | | fxenderby: so what's with the pun? |
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| Jan-13-06 | | kellmano: Come hell or high water is a phrase meaning 'in whatever circumstances' |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Ezzy: <nuwanda: what about 23...Qc7 ? I can't believe that White has enough for the piece> If 23..Qc7 24 Bxd5 Qxa7 25 Nxa7 exd5 26 Rb6 wins back the piece 26..Nc7 27 Rc6 and if the knight moves, white wins the bishop on c8. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | fxenderby: <KELMANO> thanks a bucket.. kinda forced though, isn't it? |
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Jan-13-06
 | | Richard Taylor: Chandler might have tried 29. Rb8 if Qd1+ 30. Kg2 g5 31. Rxc8 or 29...Qd1+ 30. Kg2 Rf6 31. Rxc8+ Nf8 32. Rxf8+! RxR 33. Qc8 and mate or if 32....Kg8 33. Nh3 and mate follows (smothered) after 29. Rc8 Black has to play Qe8 now 30. Qc4 threatens 31. d5 White has quite a good position. Chandler created all the attack and Olafsson escaped with desperate counter which worked -but I feel Murray probably was in time trouble... in fact after Qe8 30. Nf3 then if g5 31.Qe5+ |
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| Jan-13-06 | | DanRoss53: It was all downhill after 25... ♕h5?; if instead Black played 25... ♖f6!, he could have retained the lead after 26. ♕a8 ♖d6 27. ♖b7 ♕d8 28. ♖a7 ♕e8 29. ♖f7 ♗d7 30. ♕b7 ♕xf7 31. ♘xf7 ♔xf7 -- but in all fairness to White, there was a lot of complication for Black to find that way out. (Thanks to Crafty for sanity checking some of my less flattering moves.) |
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| Jan-13-06 | | dakgootje: <<OhioChessFan:> I don't understand why <Gowe> has upset you so much> Hmmm not sure if <OhioChessFan> was really upset about Gowes post, however he could be as, though i thought <chessgames.com> didnt really care in what language everyone posts, it isnt too clear if you post in an, for english people, foreign language. Though being dutch without any talents for languages, who speaks very poor some words french, german and a little better english and of course dutch, i think <Gowe> said something which comes down to that he doesnt really like people who post things like: Yeah im 37th! So if thats true it could be that <OhioChessFan> agreed with him... but of course my translation could be totally wrong and thus also i could be very wrong with my conclusion, so someone who is able to read <Gowe>s post please explain what he really said lol |
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| Jan-13-06 | | dakgootje: *reads previous post....*
Grammatically (how you write that again...) ive written it very poorly so please dont comment on that ;-) |
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| Jan-13-06 | | meloncio: <dakgootje><i think <Gowe> said something which comes down to that he doesnt really like people who post things like: Yeah im 37th!> You're right. In short, Gowe was a bit angry. I prefer not to write the full translation of Gowe's post, since is obvious he knows enough English to do it. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Ezzy: <Richard Taylor: Chandler might have tried 29. Rb8 if Qd1+ 30. Kg2 g5 31. Rxc8> <Richard Taylor - Chandler created all the attack and Olafsson escaped with desperate counter which worked> Very confusing. I think you are mistaking who was white and who was black. Olafsson created all the attack. Who escaped with a desperate counter that worked? |
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Jan-13-06
| | OhioChessFan: <<OhioChessFan:> I don't understand why <Gowe> has upset you so much > <Ezzy> I had no issue with Gowe. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | chessic eric: I think black improves his game with 14...Ne4 instead of ...Nd5. White's 15.Qa3 does an excellent job of exploiting black's weakened central dark squares, but with a knight on e4 and black's subsequent ...N7f6 black would at least be fighting to retain control of the d6 square. Once black did realize that d6 was white's point of attack, 18...Ne8? and 19...Nec7? were insufficient to the defensive task.
If anyone was wondering, 25.Ne5 is far better than 25.Ne7+ because the e5 knight cannot be dislodged and permanently keeps the black queen from g6. While it looks attractive for white to try to dominate the seventh rank with 25.Ne7+,Kh8
26.Nxc8,Qxc8
27.Rb7!
that line fails to 26...Qg6+
27.Kf(h)1,Rxc8
28.Rb6?,Rc1+
The bottom line is that it is not worth a simple check on e7 to give up the best piece in the game for the worst, and even without exchanging the the knight for the c8 bishop with Ne7xc8, that knight won't stay on e7 for long. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | Ezzy: <Ezzy - I had no issue with Gowe> No big issue, but it seems you thought he was a good candidate for being ignored, and I just wondered why. |
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| Jan-13-06 | | kevin86: Chandler is too passive-he will gain no FRIENDS with that kind of play. |
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Jan-13-06
| | OhioChessFan: <No big issue, but it seems you thought he was a good candidate for being ignored, and I just wondered why.> Sigh. I was referring to PaulLovric, who was mentioned in Gowe's post. |
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Jan-15-06
| | Richard Taylor: < Ezzy: <Richard Taylor: Chandler might have tried 29. Rb8 if Qd1+ 30. Kg2 g5 31. Rxc8>
<Richard Taylor - Chandler created all the attack and Olafsson escaped with desperate counter which worked>
Very confusing. I think you are mistaking who was white and who was black. Olafsson created all the attack. Who escaped with a desperate counter that worked? > Yes yes - I was mixed up - in fact thought that Back won and Chandler was White! - you are right - I didn't really understand this game -it wasn't patriotism... yes Olaffson was White and he DID create all the attack - that was what was what I was admiring and wondering why White resigned!! I thought there was an invitable mate -must have been tired when I looked at it... |
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Jan-15-06
| | Richard Taylor: <Ezzy> I know what it was I saw the game end and thought -oh yes, Black has Bb7+ 32. Rxb7 Qd1# (but of course then Qxd1 happens! they should go back to putting "resigns" or "lost on time" etc at the end of games...for such as me...) |
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sac: 21.Nxb7