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Paul E Littlewood vs David Norwood
"Deep in the Woods" (game of the day Oct-05-2017)
Commonwealth-ch 3rd (1985), London ENG, rd 11, Feb-26
Benoni Defense: Taimanov Variation (A67)  ·  0-1
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Dec-10-13  Lovuschka: Too bad, this is not the holiday present hunt game. :-)
Dec-10-13  ajax333221: but we were (or are) close
May-25-17  Ironmanth: Terrific game all the way through! Thanks for this one. Y'all have a great weekend!
May-25-17
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  ChessHigherCat: This game would make a good riddle:

Little would he lose, Norwood he win

May-25-17
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  swclark25: Great riddle <ChessHigherCat>! Going with wood theme...

Would 20)Qg4 have been better than Qc4?

Would Qh6 have been better for Black at move 20 rather than a6 then Qh6?

May-25-17  MrJafari: A tragedy for White! He lost while it seems he played better overall...
May-25-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <swclark25: Great riddle <ChessHigherCat>! Going with wood theme...

Would 20)Qg4 have been better than Qc4?> It's true that Qg4 would have been a little more active since it threatens Qc8+ and protects the g3 pawn, but I think Littlewood correctly preferred Qc4 because it prevents 20)...Bxc3 21) bxc3 Rxc3+ and also protects against Qxd5.

<Would Qh6 have been better for Black at move 20 rather than a6 then Qh6?>

I agree with you there. Qh6 would gain the initiative by threatening a discovered check and prevent 21. Ne2 with a discovered attack on the Q, followed by Nxd4, which looks really good for white.

May-25-17  devere: <MrJafari: A tragedy for White! He lost while it seems he played better overall>

It seems to me that White got outplayed after he exhausted his opening book knowledge. 32.Nh3 was the losing move. If White had played 20.Qd2 or Qc2 instead of Qc4, he had a winning position.

Oct-05-17  dhotts: I n addition to 20.Qc4 being less than best, 23.Nge2 really gave white a winning position +2.92....Interesting that the engine I used didn't even list 23.Nge2 as a top 3, but when I played it, the evals just kept ticking upwards.
Oct-05-17
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  kevin86: Great black attack! Even an escape to the queenside offered white no respite.
Oct-05-17
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  Domdaniel: This sort of thing is the reason I stopped playing the Benoni.

There are other 'crazy' lines, like the Leningrad Dutch or the Blumenfeld, which don't offer White quite so many chances.

Oct-05-17
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  Domdaniel: What is a 'railroad mate' anyway?
A mate you can carry out in your sleep(er) ...?
Oct-05-17  ajile: If you are a Benoni player you generally want to avoid the Taimanov variation by NOT committing to it before White plays Nf3. The White setup with f4 before Nf3 is very dangerous in practice for Black.
Oct-05-17
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  thegoodanarchist: <Domdaniel: This sort of thing is the reason I stopped playing the Benoni.>

Is this why Kasparov told his students not to play the Benoni?

Oct-05-17
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  Domdaniel: <ajile> Agreed. When I used to play the Benoni, I'd generally wait for a white Nf3, or maybe g3.

Still, I now suspect that the whole system is unsound. Black can get good play, but not so often.

Oct-05-17
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  Domdaniel: "One was Texas medicine, the other was just railroad gin -- And like a fool I mixed them, and it strangled up my mind, and now people just get uglier and I have no sense of time ..."

Bob Dylan.

Oct-05-17
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  outplayer: Very crazy this game. I'll try it with Black in my superblitz games.
Oct-05-17
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  Domdaniel: <outplayer> - <Very crazy this game. I'll try it with Black in my superblitz games>

Seriously, I don't recommend it.
You'd need to do a huge amount of prep, and even then...

Still, if you're determined, good luck.

Oct-05-17  ajile: <Domdaniel: <ajile> Agreed. When I used to play the Benoni, I'd generally wait for a white Nf3, or maybe g3. Still, I now suspect that the whole system is unsound. Black can get good play, but not so often.>

When I researched this line a while back I found that Black can survive IF he plays perfect defense. But why would any Benoni player ask for this kind of opening? One wrong move and you are crushed. On a related note I miss Gashimov who was a rare super GM who played this defense.

Oct-05-17  ajile: I found one high level game that Gashimov played:

Jakovenko vs V Gashimov, 2010

The odd looking 8..Nfd7 appears to be the key defensive move in this line.

Oct-07-17
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  Domdaniel: <ajile> The Gashimov game is a good one - but actually 8...Nfd7 seems to be the mainline in response to Taimanov's 8.Bb5+. For example, the CG database has more than 500 games in the 8.Bb5+ line, and over 450 of them continue ...Nfd7.

There was a sharp line in the 1970s and 80s where the best reply to a Bb5+ was apparently ...Kf8 -- but it was a slightly different line, and not so good anyway.

But another interesting point here is that Black avoids ...a6, which used to be a regular Benoni move. This way, he gets to develop his Knight to a6 and then b4. This maneuver has also become a main line, but I think this was one of the first games to feature it.

Oct-07-17
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  perfidious: <Dom>, I won a game from Jim Rizzitano in this in 1980, following then-current theory. We traded blunders when my position was probably winning, thereby proving the truth of Tartakower's aphorism that the winner of a game is the player who makes the last but one mistake.
Oct-07-17
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  zanzibar: <<Dom> What is a 'railroad mate' anyway?

A mate you can carry out in your sleep(er) ...?>

Ha! It's actually a fairly new term adopted over at ChessTempo (I actually invented it, and lobbied for its usage, small point of pride),

It's a pattern where the king is stuck between a Q+R (on the rails), who drive the king either to the edge of the board or to a stopper. It works horizontally or vertically (and has color-parity).

Here's the canonical example at <CT>:

https://chesstempo.com/tactical-mot...

(Black to move)


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Here the White king is driven along the 2nd rank to mate on the edge.

(I guess the original post advocating its usage was this one-

https://chesstempo.com/chess-forum/...

Though I sprinkled it liberally in the problem comments at first.)

Oct-07-17  ajile: <Domdaniel: <ajile> The Gashimov game is a good one - but actually 8...Nfd7 seems to be the mainline in response to Taimanov's 8.Bb5+. For example, the CG database has more than 500 games in the 8.Bb5+ line, and over 450 of them continue ...Nfd7.>

Yes good point. I had a vague memory about ..Nfd7 but forgot it was normally in reply to the bishop check.

<But another interesting point here is that Black avoids ...a6, which used to be a regular Benoni move. This way, he gets to develop his Knight to a6 and then b4. This maneuver has also become a main line, but I think this was one of the first games to feature it.>

..a6 is a standard Benoni move but after White plays a4 Black has one less square for his q-knight. Move order is really critical in these lines.

Oct-15-17
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  Domdaniel: <zanzi> Very nice. In keeping with my earlier Dylan quote, I guess this is "Blood on the Tracks" ...
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