Aug-02-04 | | Jesuitic Calvinist: An unfamiliar, attacking side to Petrosian. His coffee must have been particularly strong that day. |
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Dec-18-04 | | ArturoRivera: What the heck!!???, i just saw the game and i have only a question: What kind of drug did they put on petrosians cofee?, or perhaps he was VERY angry or maybe as Jesuist Calvinist said: His coffe was very strong! |
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Feb-12-06 | | Fan of Leko: Tigran was being criticized for drawing too many games and decided he would show them.
Bagirov gives 8... Bg7 a "?" and recommends f6 instead, but what is wrong with Bh3? |
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Apr-19-09 | | skemup: 24.Bf5 would be also good i think |
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Nov-30-11 | | wordfunph: this game was featured in Paul Keres book Power Chess - Great Grandmaster Battles from Russia.. Petrosian - Estrin
after 17...Bg6
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Keres aptly justified the game's title as "Petrosian in Tal's Clothing" nyehehe! |
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Jan-22-12
 | | alligator: CG This game should be in GUESS THE MOVE. |
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Jan-22-12
 | | Fusilli: <Keres aptly justified the game's title as "Petrosian in Tal's Clothing" nyehehe!> Didn't Spassky say that Petrosian was, first and foremost, a great tactician? |
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May-23-16 | | ChrisWainscott: It's always been something of a misnomer to say that "Player X plays in the style of Y" with any top level player. Take Botvinnik for example. He was known as a solid positional guy. Yet look at some of his early games and you'll see someone who can attack with the best of them. Or Kasparov. He was known as the best attacker of his day. The guy who would unleash fire and brimstone at any opportunity, and yet look at game 24 in Seville when everything was on the line. The point of all of this is to say that while Petrosian might have been known as the best defender of his era and the guy who risked little, the reality is that he was indeed a master tactician and would attack without mercy when the situation called for it. Recall if you will Karpov's saying about if he saw two possible continuations and one led to a microscopic advantage but was easy to play, and the other was unclear but had extremely promising chances then he would take the former choice every single time. All that means is that everything else being equal players like Petrosian would prefer to play in their usual solid style. Here, however, Petrosian saw weakness and went for the throat. I wrote the following blog post about this game: www.ontheroadtochessmaster.com/petrosian-in-tals-
-clothing/ and needed the pgn which brought me here.
This game is amazing and everyone should enjoy it! |
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May-23-16 | | Petrosianic: Headlines are sometimes meant to be eye-catching, rather than strictly accurate. This game is not really Tal-like at all, in that the attack is sharp, but not speculative. White doesn't sacrifice pieces with no clear followup just because the position looks promising. (Also, White is never technically lost, which is what would REALLY make the game Tal-like!) |
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May-23-16 | | RookFile: Fusilli's quote of Spassky is accurate and captures what was going on here. Petrosian was a great tactician. |
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Sep-22-16
 | | Jimmy720: Very instructive |
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Feb-04-17 | | ughaibu: To deepen the mystery, if there is one, Petrosian vs Estrin, 1956 |
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Mar-11-17
 | | offramp: <ChrisWainscott: It's always been something of a misnomer to say that "Player X plays in the style of Y" with any top level player.
Take Botvinnik for example. He was known as a solid positional guy. Yet look at some of his early games and you'll see someone who can attack with the best of them.> A very good point, Chris. I once made the following point. "If you are shown an individual game then you will never guess who the winner is. You need to see a series of 5 or 6 games to guess who is playing. In a single game Petrosian can play like Tal, and Tal like Petrosian." Wise words, mate! |
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Sep-01-20 | | Gaito: The following position was reached after the move 22....f6.
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Here, Petrosian's lack of training in the art of attack betrayed him, as he played 23. Ne4, a tame move that apparently is way less strong than the more agressive 23.Bc2! Very possibly someone like Tal would have played 23. Bc2! with a mating attack. A couple of examples: I) 23. Bc2! Rxa2 24. Qd3! (the famous train B+Q) f5 (forced) 25. Rxh6+! Kg8 26. Bb3 and Black could resign. Or else: II) 23. Bc2! Kg8 24. Bb3 Ne6 25. Nxe6 and after Qxe6 26. Rxh6 is curtains. At any rate, this was a marvelous performance by Petrosian. Where did Black go wrong in the opening? In the first place: 8...Bg7? was a weak or dubious move. (8...h6 was in order). Then 15....gxh5? was definitely the losing move. (15....h6 was worthy of consideration).
Petrosian was an excellent tactician, but sometimes in the heat of a tactical battle he was seen to overlook the strongest killing moves, like in his first match game vs. Bobby Fischer in Buenos Aires, 1971. |
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Oct-13-21
 | | kingscrusher: Petrosian in this tournament seems to be saying to the world - "look I can play like Mikhail Tal too! ". |
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Oct-13-21 | | Petrosianic: Not really. Tal's attacks were speculative. This one isn't. |
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Oct-13-21 | | SChesshevsky: < Petrosianic: Not really. Tal's attacks were speculative. This one isn't. > Think I'm going with Petrosianic on this one. Doesn't feel super Tal-ish but is pure Petrosian. Always thought Petrosian's big plus was spotting weaknesses. In both his own and opponents position. His skill was having the discipline to fix his weaknesses. What made him a WC was probably his ability to effectively, strategically exploit his opponents weaknesses. Here, I'm guessing Petrosian thought he had significant winning chances and practically no losing chances after 7...Nd8. Probably figuring no way black is going ...0-0-0 and doubtful he'll leave the king in the center, and it's going to take some time to develop the kingside, and even then those pieces aren't going to be greatly placed. Not a hard strategic plan to come up with. Use the time to get as many pieces aimed at the king assuming probable ...0-0 and bust up the f,g,h pawn formation. Given blacks bank rank and congestion, the number of defenders will probably have to be diminished. After 17. Be4, seems you have five white pieces aimed at the weakened black king with maybe three defending. Plus it doesn't look to take long for white to get the other two involved. At the end, appears five white pieces attacking the king versus the one queen defender. Estrin probably made the win easier, but think Petrosian probably had a good idea how it could go by move 9. |
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Oct-13-21 | | BwanaVa: I would note Spassky's full comment after the 1966 World Championship match: "It is to Petrosian's advantage that his opponents never know when he is suddenly going to play like Mikhail Tal." |
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Aug-19-22
 | | Ron: If I recall correctly, Botvinnik said something like, if he sacrifices a piece, it might or might not be sound, but if Petrosian sacrifices a piece, you might as well resign. |
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