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| Jul-31-03 | | Brian Watson: The black Queen has to defend against Qd7#; after 19...Qd4 20.Be3, where does the black queen go? |
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| Feb-12-04 | | drukenknight: Here T.D. here is another "brilliancy" from Tal/Portisch according to Larry Evans. Brilliancy or just fooling around w/ the chess pieces? |
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| Feb-12-04 | | drukenknight: Brian W:there is nothing in that line, after 20 Be3 the black Q just goes back. The main line runs; 17...Be7
18. Bg6+ Kd8
19. Bf5 Qxd4
20. Bf4 Nd3
21. Be3 Qd6
and black is definitely winning. So much for Tal's brilliant analysis. |
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| Feb-12-04 | | Shadout Mapes: <dk> how about 21.Rd1 in your line? After 21...Ke8 22.Rxd3 Qxf4 23.Qd7+ Kf7 24.Rf3 how does black win? |
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| Feb-13-04 | | zorro: <dk> In your line instead of 20...Nd3 black could try 20...c5. After 21. Re1 Nc6 22. Re2 Ke8 23. Bg5 (23. Rd2 Qxf4 24. Qd7+ Kf8 and the following 25...Ne5 holds everything) 23...Qd8 24. Rd1 Qc7 25. Rd7 Qe5! black defends |
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| Feb-13-04 | | zorro: errata corrige: 24 Rd2 |
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| Feb-13-04 | | drukenknight: sorry I am not sure black is winning, I am just trying to save him. Sorry I am getting confused. |
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| Feb-14-04 | | catfriend: Magic... But I don't like black's idea to give white two bishops from the start. Is all the idea with  g4, : f3 good? |
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| Feb-14-04 | | clocked: after 19. ... Qxd4 20.Bf4
20. ... Nd3 21.Rd1! is correct
however the suggestion of
20. ... c5 fails to 21.Be5 Qd2 22.Bg4
perhaps a better try is
20. ... Re8 21.Re1
21. ... Nd3 22.Re4 Qxf2+ 23.Kh2 Qg1+ 24.Kxg1 Bc5+ 25.Be3 Bxe3 26.Rxe3 Rxe6 27.Bxe6
or
21. ... g6! 22.Bg4 Nd3 23.Re4 Qxf2 24.Kh2 Qg1+ 25.Kxg1 Bc5+ 26.Be3 Rxe6 27.Rxe6 |
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| Feb-14-04 | | drukenknight: 21 Rd1 Ke8 unless I am missing something. |
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| Feb-15-04 | | clocked: you are missing the rest of the line Shadout Mapes gave above |
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| Feb-17-04 | | drukenknight: Clocked: Shadout's line gets clocked. Black will be up the exchange and there are 5 pawns each, an easy win after: 28. c5 Rh6
29. Be4 Re8
30. Re3 Kf7
(30 Bf5 Re1+ is also crushing)
31. Kf1 Be7
32. Bxe7 Rxe7
33. f3 b6
34. Rc3 Rf6
35. Ke2 b5 |
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| Feb-20-04 | | clocked: 28. c5 ?? what does this follow?
Shadout's line ends at move 24.Rf3
you said 20. ... Nd3 21.Be3
Shadout responded 21.Rd1 etc
you responded 21. ... Ke8
and failed to comment on the rest of the moves Shadout provided |
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| Feb-20-04 | | drukenknight: Clocked: ehhh? Let me set this back up and see if I can figure out what we are saing here....hang on....I thought I had this worked out before... |
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| Feb-21-04 | | clocked: drunkenknight: grip...slipping, how long are you going to keep me hanging? |
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| Feb-21-04 | | drukenknight: Hold on, hold on, this is an earlier line based on shad. suggestion of 21 Rd1 but does not include his suggestion for whites 22nd...hold on wile a find the other one.. 21. Rd1 Ke8
22. Bg3 Qxb2
23. Bxh7 Qf6
24. Bg6+ Kf8
25. Qxf6+ Bxf6
26. Rxd3 Rd8
27. Bd6+ Kg8
28. c5 Rh6
29. Be4 Re8
(30 Bf5 Re1+ is also crushing)
30. Re3 Kf7
31. Kf1 Be7
32. Bxe7 Rxe7
33. f3 b6
34. Rc3 Rf6
35. Ke2 b5 |
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| Feb-21-04 | | drukenknight: clocked this is from a quick and dirty run on the crappy chesslab computer. It certainly looks like black can survive this..... 21. Rd1 Ke8
22. Rxd3 Qxf4
23. Qd7+ Kf7
24. Rf3 Qxf3
25. gxf3 Rab8
26. Be6+ Kf6
27. Bg4 Kf7
28. Qf5+ Ke8
29. Qe5 Kf7 |
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| Feb-21-04 | | clocked: I think you mean
28.Qe6+ Ke8
29.Qe5 Kf7
then a forcing line is
30.Be6+ Kg6
31.Qe4+ Kh6
32.Bf7 Bg5
33.h4 Bd2
34.f4
black is dying |
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Jul-16-04
 | | acirce: John Watson has some interesting and seemingly pretty harsh (at least IMO it would be) criticism of Kasparov's annotations in <On My Great Predecessors>; on http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/jwa... he gives this game as an example. |
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May-10-07
 | | Tomlinsky: Annotations by Tal from the absolutely superb book 'The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal'... 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bg4 5.h3 Bxf3 6.Qxf3 Nd7 7.d4 Ngf6 8.Bd3 Nxe4 9.Qxe4 e6 10.O-O Be7 11.c3 Nf6 12.Qh4 
click for larger view'After 12.Qe2 White has a slight, but indisputable, positional advantage. I wished to lure the knight onto d5 from where it is unable to take up the good defensive post f8. However, this is achieved at the cost of several tempi and Black has time
to stabilise the position.'
12...Nd5 13.Qg4 Bf6 (13...O-O 14. Bh6 Bf6 15.Qe4  ) 
click for larger view14.Re1 (14.Qe4 Ne7 'White's initiative would soon evaporate.') 14... Qb6 (14...O-O 15.Bh6 Re8 16.Rad1 Qb6 17.Bc1)
'At this point 'correct' was the reserved 15 a3, with the hope of exploiting the famous pair of bishops in a protracted struggle. Before the match we had noticed that the Hungarian Grandmaster has an excellent feel for the most subtle strategic nuances but reacts less confidently to sudden tactical turns. This, and also the fact that the black king has stood with impunity in the centre of the board for 14 moves, provoked the following reaction.' 15.c4 Nb4 (On 15...Ne7 I was planning 16.d5 cxd5 17.cxd5 Nxd5 18.Qa4+ at any rate preventing Black from castling.) 
click for larger view16. Rxe6+ fxe6 17. Qxe6+ Kf8
click for larger viewTal wrote that he spent most of his time considering 17...Be7 and discovered 18.Bg6+! (18.Bg5? Qc7 19.Re1 Nxd3 20.Bxe7 Qd7) 18...Kd8 (18...hxg6? 19.Bg5 Qc7 20.Re1 Qd7 21.Qxg6+ ) 19.Bf5 Qxd4 (19...Qc7? 20.Bf4 Qc8 21. Qe4 ) 20.Bf4 'This position greatly appealed to me...') 18. Bf4 Rd8 19. c5 Nxd3 20.cxb6!? (20. Bh6 Qxb2 (20... Qc7 21. Qxf6+ Kg8 22. Bxg7 Qxg7 23. Qxd8+ Kf7 24.Qc7+ Kf6 25.Qd6+ Kf5 (25...Kf7 26.Rd1) 26.g4+ Ke4) 21.Qxf6+ Ke8 22.Qe6+ Kf8 23. Qf6+  ) 
click for larger view20...Nxf4 21.Qg4 Nd5 22.bxa7 Ke7 (22...g6 23.Re1 Kg7 24.a8=Q Rxa8 25.Qd7+ Kh6 26. Qxb7 Bxd4 27. Qxc6 Rhf8 28. Re2 ) 
click for larger view23.b4! Ra8 24.Re1+ Kd6 25.b5 Rxa7 26.Re6+ Kc7 27.Rxf6 1-0 |
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| Oct-02-09 | | WhiteRook48: Tal is a genius! |
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| Jun-12-10 | | ForeverYoung: Players like Tal inspire me! |
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| Dec-23-11 | | palagalaako: Hmmm..why did Black resign after the 27th move of white?is it because white will be up 2 pawns in the endgame (like if 27 ... gxf6 28 Qg7+ and forking)?or am i missing something here.. 0.o |
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Dec-23-11
 | | AylerKupp: <palagalaako> After 27...gxf6 (Black's best) 28.Qg7+ Kd6 29.Qxh8 White will have Q+6P vs. R+N+4P, a winning advantage. True, Black can capture White's Pa2 but after 29...Rxa2 30.bxc6 bxc6 31.Qxh7 it's Q+4P vs. R+N+2P, still a winning advantage. Note that in particular that Black is probably unable to stop White's h-pawn from queening.
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| Dec-23-11 | | palagalaako: Oh yeah! Thanks for that continuation.. Hmm, that really is an overwhelming advantage, plus i think Tal plays the endgames really good after looking at Nikitin vs Tal (1959)..could you suggest any more sacrificial games like this one? |
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sac: 16.Rxe6+