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| Nov-04-02 | | pferd: Schlechter was playing Em. Lasker for the world championship. A draw in this, the final game of the 10 game match, would give him a 5.5-4.5 win. Instead of playing for a draw, Schlechter uncorks a sacrifice on move 35, Lasker wins, and draws the match 5-5, retaining his title. Was 35...Rxf4 the right move? Can you find anything better? |
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| Nov-04-02 | | Danilomagalhaes: What I don´t understand is the 38th move, preventing the menace of Nxd4. But couldn´t he make more pressure, maybe with Rxf8? I don´t have time to study and see a good move for black, but at this position, "more is the pressure, more it hurts" |
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| Nov-04-02 | | Danilomagalhaes: Ah, and Pferd, I also think that 35... Rxf4 wasn´t a good move. Maybe 35...Qh2+?, then a possible continuation could be: 36.Rf2 Qh5+ 37.Ke1 Rd8 38.Be3 e6 39.Nc5 Nd6 40.Rcc2 Qh1+ Rf1 Qh4+ Kd2 Qh2+ Kc1 Qh3 Re1 Rb8 Rb2 Rd8 Kb1 Kg8 Ka2 and I don´t have time to see how it continues, but, I think white wins anyway if plays the right moves |
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| Nov-05-02 | | pawntificator: Excellent annotation on moves 19, 26, 28 and 35. I now have a much better understanding of the game. |
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| Nov-05-02 | | Danilomagalhaes: Games like this teach us how to play correctly a game when there aren´t many pieces in game. It´s also very nice to search games with more that 100 moves. Some of them finishes with a nice endgame to study |
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Nov-06-02
 | | Honza Cervenka: Maybe 35...Nd6 seems to be good for black. Playing 39...Qh4+ instead of 39...Qh1+? Schlechter could achieve a draw. |
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| Nov-06-02 | | pferd: Tell us more, HC. After 39...Qh4+ 40.Kd2, how does Black continue (40...Rxf3 41.Qxf3 Qxd4+ 42.Qd3 is just a transpoition to the actual game so you must have something else in mind). |
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Nov-06-02
| | Honza Cervenka: 39...Qh4+ 40.Kd2 Qh2+ 41.Ke1 (41.Ke3 Rxf3+ 42.Kxf3 Qh3+ and 43...Qxc8; 41.Kc1 Qh1+ 42.Kb2 Qxf3 43.Qxb5 Qf2+ 44.Kb3 Qxd4) 41...Qh4+ = |
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Nov-06-02
| | Honza Cervenka: I should tell more also about 35...Nd6. The position is very complicated but I believe that black should hold balance at least. How dangerous the position for white is it could be seen from following line: 35...Nd6 36.Rc5 Nf5 37.Bc3 Qg4 38.Ke1 Rd8 39.d5 Nh4 with strong attack, for example 40.Bxg7+ Rxg7 41.Rh3 Kg8 42.Qb3 Qxf4 43.d6+ Kf8 and white is defenceless or 40.Rf2 Ng2+ 41.Kf1 Rxf4 42.Rxf4 Nxf4 43.Qe4 Qd1+ 44.Kf2 Nd3+ etc. or 40.Rf1 Ng2+ 41.Kd2 Rxf4 42.Bxg7+ Kxg7 43.Qc3+ Kg8 44.Rxf4 (44.Rh1 Nh4) 44...Qxf4+ and black wins. |
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Nov-07-02
| | Honza Cervenka: Danilo, 38.Rxf8 gives nothing to white as black can play calmly 38...Rxf8 (2nd white rook is pinned). Computer suggests 38.Rd8 but then black can play 38...Nxa3. |
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| Nov-09-02 | | drukenknight: what about 16...c5 instead of moving the B back and losing time? |
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| Nov-17-02 | | PVS: When I was young, my uncle told me that the match agreement required the challenger to win by two games. 5.5-4.5 would not have given the title to Schlechter, so he had to go for a win at all costs in game ten. I have read that elsewhere since. I do not know if it is established history or speculation. |
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| Nov-17-02 | | refutor: not true in this match...in later matches the challenger would have to win the match 10 wins-8 because in the event of being tied at 9 the match would end (so the challenger couldn't win 10-9). i don't believe this was the case in this match (being only 10 games in total and not needing 10 wins) |
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| Nov-21-02 | | PVS: The idea was that because the match was so short, Lakser did not want to risk his title with only a few games, one win and forced draws could do him in. I just read something that said the 1910 match was supposed to be a 30 game match for the title, but that the financing fell through, so a 10 game match was held instead. |
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| Dec-11-02 | | ughaibu: The letters that I've seen concerning the conditions of this match written by those present at the time state that Schlecter only needed a draw to win the match. I'm interested that this case hasn't attracted any stories of Schlecter being threatened by Lasker fans or something similar. On the other hand, due to what was at stake and the manner in which it was played, this has been described as "the most exciting game of chess ever played", maybe an exaggeration but a great game and a piece of re-livable history. |
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| Dec-11-02 | | PVS: I have never heard he was threatened, only that the plus two wins was a secret condition of the match. I am not sure one can blame Lasker for not wanting to lose the title in a mere ten games. It is something I intend to research at some point. |
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| Dec-11-02 | | ughaibu: PVS: I was joking about the threats, inspired by the Bronstein/Tal stories. I did read somewhere that this match wasn't for the title, seems very strange that there is so much mystery about what must have been a major event. |
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| Dec-11-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: I believe there is evidence that both Keres and Bronstein were threatened (Keres seriously) on Botvinnik's behalf. Tal was only forced to play a return match two weeks after having had a heart attack. |
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| Dec-12-02 | | ughaibu: Joking or not, naturally I'm not defending Botvinnik. |
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| Dec-12-02 | | Kulla Tierchen: That is understood. |
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| Apr-25-04 | | iron maiden: Is it just me or is something a little fishy with the annotations to this game? Many moves that seem dubious to be are classified as good, and vice versa. For example 39...Qh1+, which is generally regarded as the losing move, is given a "!" |
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| Oct-19-04 | | who: After move 46 "Black has a decisive advantage"?? I agree with you <iron maiden>. |
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| Oct-19-04 | | Minor Piece Activity: The annotations are from Capablanca, but many of the evaluations are not. I suspect they are Fritz's (how sad). Lasker+Capablanca-Fritz
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| Oct-19-04 | | Calli: Yeah, someone was kind enough to type in Capablanca's notes but then annofritzed it, apparently. I could look it up, but am sure that Capa didn't randomly say "drawish position" as indicated here. Come on folks if you submit a "Notes by Capablanca" game , don't screwed it up with other garbage. :-( |
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| Dec-23-04 | | BaranDuin: This opening is in fact a slav that has transposoed in a typical grünfeld position! (1.d4 Pf6 2.c4 g6 3.Pc3 d5 4.Pf3 Lg7 5.e3 c6 would have given the same position.)And that 12 years before the first official grûnfeld game. |
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