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Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian vs Nigel Short
London (1978)  ·  Queen's Indian Defense: Spassky System (E14)  ·  0-1
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Sep-29-04  WMD: Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.
Sep-29-04  clocked: To be considered
24.Nxg6, 30...exf5, 36.Qd3, 36...Nxg6, 37.Rxf6
Jul-05-06  sixfeetunder: Short didn't deserve that win for sure.
Jul-05-06  RookFile: No worries, later in his career, Short would make blunders such as allowing mate in one to Beliavsky.
Aug-24-06
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  Eggman: <<Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.>>

Doesn't count, that was a simul.

Feb-05-07  geezerbloke: <WMD: The English cannot abide rudeness by foreigners.> I didn't realise we were fond of it in the English.
Apr-20-07  Davolni: Has anybody done any analyses of this game? What was wrong in it? Does Short really deserve the win here? I would appreciate some thoughts of yours. THANKS
Apr-20-07
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  chancho: <Davolni> Looks like Tigran blundered a piece in the game, and Nigel punished his mistake.
Apr-20-07  Flyboy216: Wasn't this a simul too? It's not listed as one, and from the comments here it doesn't sound like people think it is, but Mr. Short himself has this to say on his page:

<I did not like Petrosian, who resigned against me in a simul with extraordinary ill-grace.>

Apr-20-07
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  chancho: <Flyboy216> Yeah, the game was from a simul.
Apr-20-07  Davolni: <Chancho> I don't think he blundered a piece, because for 37...Rxg6 white has Bb1xg6 and/or N E5xg6... I dont know....
Apr-20-07
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  chancho: <Davolni> Petrosian played 38.Qh5? (leaving himself a piece down as the rest of the game showed)
Apr-20-07
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  keypusher: <davolni> the problem is, after Nxg6 Black has ...Bxd4+.
Apr-21-07
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  IMlday: 19.g4 looks very strong to me.
May-08-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <chancho> & <Davolni>

First, Short blundered:

36 ... Rf6 (Nxg6 much better).

Then, Petrosian reciprocated twice as badly:

37. Qh2? (Rxf6 much, much better).

May-08-07
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  perfidious: The British Chess Magazine has a picture of Petrosian at Short's board, though I don't remember which issue- I haven't looked at that year's BCM in a long while.

<IMlday> When I first looked at your suggestion of 19.g4, I was sceptical- it isn't a move which would have occurred to me, as I'd likely have believed the weakness on the long diagonal would be too great a hazard in the long run.

Then, I thought of the aphorism, 'a weakness isn't a weakness if it can'e be attacked', and g4 didn't look bad after all.

Nov-26-07  SickedChess: http://streathambrixtonchess.blogsp... This game started the fireworks between Davolni and Short
Mar-12-09
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  John Saunders: The picture appeared on page 156 of the April 1978 issue of BCM. The simul took place at the London Central YMCA on 15 January 1978 and Petrosian's score was +10, =11, -9. BCM (Feb 1978, p71) reports him as saying "In the USSR such players do not play in simultaneous exhibitions ... they play in international tournaments." Leonard Barden wrote a detailed report of the simul in the May 1978 issue of BCM. As well as Short, the other players who beat Petrosian on this occasion were Ian Watson, Daryl Taylor, Ray Cannon, Ian Whittaker, Richard Holmes, Tony Peterson, Daniel King and Simon Brown.
Aug-11-09  DUS: <Eggman: <<Nigel had beaten another legend before: Korchnoi vs Short, 1976.>>

Doesn't count, that was a simul.>

So you think this game with Petrosian was not a simul? You must have a very high opinion on Short.

Oct-15-10
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  Eduardo Bermudez: Kasparov, Karpov,Kramnik, Anand, Smyslov, Spassky, Tal, Topalov, Korchnoi and Petrosian !! among others, were beaten by Short
Nov-07-10  FinnPatzer: I also took a point off Petrosian in that simul, which was held in the basement of the old Endell Street building. The game went to 70 moves and was one of the last to finish. Then somebody whipped away the scoresheet, leaving me only with a dodgy counterfoil. As I used a fountain pen and wrote the score in Russian (in honour of my distinguished opponent), it's a bit hard to decipher now, but I've converted it to pgn and it seems to make sense.

Maybe I should submit the game here...?

Nov-07-10  rapidcitychess: <FinnPatzer>

Yes, please!

Nov-08-10  FinnPatzer: OK - game duly submitted. We shall see how soon it gets posted here.
Dec-29-10  FinnPatzer: OK - they finally posted the game here:
Petrosian vs D Taylor, 1978
Jan-10-12  stanleys: Here is a pic from this game and the simul: http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/...
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