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John van der Wiel vs John van Baarle
"Behind the Wiel" (game of the day Feb-29-2008)
Arnhem/Amsterdam (1983), Arnhem NED, rd 2, Jul-16
Philidor Defense: Hanham Variation (C41)  ·  1-0
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Jun-19-17
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  lost in space: Had also thoughts about 16. Rg7 but Rf8 is so much simpler - fitting better my brain-status
Jun-19-17
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  agb2002: White has a pawn for a bishop.

Black threatens Qxh5.

The queen should be on f7 instead of the rook. Therefore, 16.Rf8+ and 17.Qf7#.

Jun-19-17
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  FSR: Good point, everyone.
Jun-19-17
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  Once: Fritzie confirms that 16. Rg7+ is mate in 4 while 16. Rf8+ is mate in 2.

One point to watch is 16. Rg7+ Qxg7 17. e7+ Nxc4


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Now the temptation is to magic a second queen onto the board with 18. e8=Q+. Like cheesecake, who can resist a second piece of queen?

Except in this instance we ought to think about our waistlines. The instant coronation would be met by 18...Bf8 and black has a lot of pieces to compensate for white's extra queen.

The win from this position (which others have already mentioned) is 18. Qe8+ Qf8 19.Qxf8#


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Good little puzzle.

Jun-19-17  stacase: White's Queen needs to occupy f7 instead of the Rook. Hmmm, how to move the Rook and not lose tempo?

16. Rf8+ does the job nicely.

Jun-19-17  saturn2: Rf8 clears the f7 square with tempo
Jun-19-17
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  morfishine: <16.Rf8+> and mate next move

*****

Jun-19-17  saturn2: If one wants to complicate things he can try 16 e7

If 16..Qc1+ 17 Rf1+ winning the queen.
If 16..QxQh5 then 17 e8D+ mate soon
If 16..Bd7 17 Rg5 wins the queen
If 16..NxB 17 Rf8 like in the game

Jun-19-17  SpamIAm: Arnhem/Amsterdam, eh?
A Philidor Too Far.
Jun-19-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: Oh, thought I blundered with 16. e7
Jun-19-17  5hrsolver: 10..g6 maybe black can try to castle queenside.
Jun-19-17
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  whiteshark: <16.Rf8+!> and that's it.
Jun-19-17
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  steinitzfan: This is hard Monday. A short simple solution but a lot of blind alleys.
Jun-19-17
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  benveniste: I initially found ♖g7+, which is mate in 3. But I figured that was too hard for Monday and eventually got it right.
Jun-19-17
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  gawain: Whichever of his three moves Black tries, White mates with 17 Qf7. Nice.
Jun-19-17  PJs Studio: I first saw Rf8 is mate in one, so I looked no further. I've found that looking for clearance FIRST, then forks and sacs, is usually best.

Clearance can be assed through searching the board quickly - before going on to other tactics. After exhausting all of your tactical possibilities, positional considerations (which, of course, can be very laborious) come to the forefront.

Jun-19-17  mqhelisi: missed the Monday of all days went for the grinding Rg7+ mate after a hussle
Jun-19-17  PJs Studio: It's games like this that scare me from playing 1...e5!
Jun-19-17
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Jun-19-17  drollere: <If one wants to complicate things he can try 16 e7>

i also went for e7, as nothing seems to win for black and it's just better mayhem.

Jun-19-17  Iwer Sonsch: 16.Rg8+ Qxg8 (Kxg8 Qf7#) 17.e7+ Qf7 18.Qxf7#.

Pretty brilliant for a Monday.

Jun-19-17  Iwer Sonsch: Missed a Monday (17...Nxc4). Still working and more beautiful though.
Jun-19-17
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  OhioChessFan: Kind of a tough Monday. I apparently am the only person who had a bit of chess blindness in that I was looking for Qe8+ as a followup to Rf8+. That is, my first thought was "If I could only get the Queen past that Rook, the Queen would mate on e8." It took a little longer than it should have to see that the real clearance was the Rook's original square to be inhabited by the Queen.
Jun-19-17  dumbgai: Silly me, I went for 16. Rg7+ which is inferior. It wins but makes white's task harder than it needs to be.
Jun-20-17
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  kevin86: Rook sac and queen mate next!
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