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| Feb-11-04 | | Snow Man: just a wee nip! cheers! |
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| Feb-11-04 | | strobane: What's wrong with 22....Qd8? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | drukenknight: stro: its still going to drop a R after 23 QxQ+ NxQ |
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| Feb-11-04 | | derbyc: <its still going to drop a R after 23 QxQ+ NxQ>
Even more: he drops his second Rook too, because both protectors (the Queen and the Knight) are deflected. (22. ... d8 23. xd8  xd8 24.  xd4). And after that the Bishop also would have been taken (can't move, because then 25. xd8 and mate in the next move) |
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Feb-11-04
 | | kevin86: Boy did Tal lay an egg in this one!! |
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| Feb-11-04 | | uponthehill: Obvious move. To beat Tal is a great thing- I haven't heard about Olafsson it must have been a strong player... |
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| Feb-11-04 | | DexterGordon: I wonder why Olafsson offers a Queen exchange at move 13. Is he playing for a draw? Or would White retain some advantage after an exchange? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | ughaibu: Uponthehill: Olafsson was a world championship candidate and champion of Scandinavia a very strong player. |
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| Feb-11-04 | | sagahelten: Wouldn't Tal be able to save himself with 22 ... d8? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | sagahelten: Friðrik Ólafsson was the first icelandic grandmaster. There are now 9 icelandic GMs (out of a population of 270.000)!!! |
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Feb-11-04
 | | technical draw: <sagahelten> Do you mean 21..Rd8? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | Whitehat1963: O.K., even I saw this obvious sacrifice in a microsecond, (and anyone who has read my posts knows I'm nothing short of a mediocre chess player at my best.) Chessgames.com, it's time to start using some more subtle puzzles. |
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Feb-11-04
| | kevin86: Black didn't ave to "save" the game-he made a horrible blunder!! 21...c8???. Even world champions get "chess blindness". |
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| Feb-11-04 | | Whitehat1963: <Phoenix> LOL! Was Tal simply looking for 21...Rd8? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | Whitehat1963: How does Crafty see it after 21...Rd8? |
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| Feb-11-04 | | sagahelten: <technical draw> yes! Sorry! |
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| Feb-11-04 | | skushnir: Whitehat1963, it's time to stop whining about the quality of the puzzles and start appreciating the time and effort spent by chessgames.com in providing a daily puzzle. I'm sure they're really apologetic that today's puzzle didn't meet your exacting standards, especially considering how much you pay for their services. |
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Feb-11-04
 | | patzer2: <sagahelten> I assume you intended 21...Rd8. If so, I believe Tal would have equalized with that move. Also equalizing would have been 21...Bg4 or 21...Be6. Fritz 8 @ 16/51 depth & 759kN/s gives the following analysis: 1. (-0.16) 21...Bg4 22. Rxd4 <if 22. f3, then 22...Rd7! 23. Qf4 Qxf4 24. Rxf4 Be6 25. Re4 Rad8 26. Bc4 Rxd1+ 27. Nxd1 Bxc4 28. Rxc4 Kf8 29. Nc3 a6 30. h5 (-0.28 @ 14/43 depth & 767 kN/s), with a slight black advantage> 22...Nxd4 <not 22...Qxd4?? 23. Bh7+!  > 23. f3 Be6 24. Qxb7 Rd8 25. Kb1 <not 25. Qxa7? Bb3! 26. Rd2 (26. Rh1? Qf4+! 27. Kb1 Qd2 28. Be4 f5 29. Qb6 Re8 30. Bd5+ Bxd5 31. Nxd5 Qd3+ 32. Ka2 Qc4+ 33. Kb1 Qxc4  ) 26...Qe5 27. Qb6 Qe1+ 28. Rd1 Qe3+ 29. Kb1 Re8 30. Bh7+ Kxh7 31. Qxd4 Qxd4 32. Rxd4 Re1+ 33. Nd1 Bxd1 34. Ka2 Be2 35. h5 (-1.12 @ 14/42 depth & 760kN/s) with a clear Black advantage)> 25... Qxh4 26. Be4 <26. Qxa7 Bg6 = > 26...Qf6 = 2. (0.03) 21...Rd8 22. f3 b6 23. Rxd4 Nxd4 24. Bc4 Rc8 25. Qxd7 Rxc4 26. Kb1 = 3. (0.09) 21...Be6 22. Qxb7 Rad8 23. Qxc6 Rxd3 24. Rxd3 Rxd3 25. Qc5 a6 26. h5 Rd8 27. Qe3 = From the perspective of playing aggressively for the win, I like the first option 21...Bg4 because it is the most active and complex move, equalizing with best play while giving White more opportunities to go wrong. I think Tal would have held the position for at least a draw with 21...Bg4. However <sagahelten>, your recommendation of 21...Rd8 may be the safest and best option, avoiding the risk involved in the gambit of a pawn for active piece play and the initiative involved in the other two options. |
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Feb-11-04
 | | crafty: 21...d8 22. xd4 xd4 23. d5 c6+ 24. xc6 bxc6 25. c7 = (eval 0.16; depth 13 ply; 750M nodes) |
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| Feb-11-04 | | hart: <Re: easy chess puzzles> May I please remind anyone who is frustrated by the simplicity of puzzles like today's that "You are encouraged to participate and learn from players stronger than yourself, while guiding those who are weaker"? Puzzles like today's guide weaker players like myself. In contrast, there are often puzzles here in which the solution baffles me, even after I've looked it up--I don't see how the solution could be a winning move. If every puzzle were that tough, I would never learn. Hopefully, the easier puzzles will help me to develop my skills so that I will in time solve the harder ones. I commend chessgames.com for its inclusivity. |
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| Feb-11-04 | | hart: <Hi chessgames.com> I notice that questions like <Taylor Nixon's> pop up day after day. Maybe it would be helpful to people like him if the list of links under your heading "PLAY CHESS" on the home page appeared higher up, perhaps above "RECENT KIBITZING"? |
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Feb-11-04
 | | Sneaky: Folks, they're not ALL easy. Some days they are so hard the conversation here is one of dumbfounded awe. Today's an easy one, no doubt. The average rating in the USCF is 1429 (or 1064 if you include scholastic members) ... so I think there's an excellent chance that even today's problem gave some people a workout. Unfortunately the snoots around here have shamed them into silence. |
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| Feb-11-04 | | sleepkid: ...here's another famous Olafsson victory. One which I rather like: F Olafsson vs Fischer, 1958 |
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| Feb-11-04 | | Larsker: Today's puzzle was so easy that I felt like looking it over a couple times to see if I had missed something. The immediate, obvious solution was also the right one. This is not always the case in chess, I've been told. |
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| Feb-11-04 | | slylonewolf: Larsker, your observation is correct! |
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