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|Mar-06-09|| ||playground player: "Slammin' Salmon's Need" would have completed the pun so that even our British colleagues would get it.|
|Mar-06-09|| ||tivrfoa: 33 ... Kf7 -> bad move
GO KING! :)
|Mar-06-09|| ||MrMelad: What if 21..Nxd4?|
|Mar-06-09|| ||FSR: Frankly, I thought Salmon would be more of a fish.|
|Mar-06-09|| ||I Like Fish: how to grill...
and healthy way...
|Mar-06-09|| ||Riverbeast: WOW.
I thought I had seen all of Morphy's best games, but I had never seen this one. And I honestly think it's the best I've ever seen!
I had to play it over several times to realize how brutally accurate it was. Just like a computer... And he played a game like this in a BLINDFOLD SIMUL???
Amazing. I always thought Fischer was just being gracious toward one of his idols when he said Morphy may have been stronger than him, because of his tactical strength
But I'm sure he saw this game, and maybe was as much in awe of it as I am!
|Mar-06-09|| ||WhiteRook48: how about <eating salmon>?|
|Mar-06-09|| ||MrBlueLake: How many opponents did Morphy play against in this blindfold simultaneous
|Mar-06-09|| ||Some call me Tim: Eight games are listed out in Shibut's book on Morphy. Played at Birmingham in 1858. Just makes the achievment that much more amazing. He won 6, lost one, drew one. I'll see if I can find the others in the database and post.|
|Mar-06-09|| ||Some call me Tim: Here is one of the others played in the same exhibition:
Morphy vs J Freeman, 1858|
|Mar-06-09|| ||Some call me Tim: And here is his loss:
Morphy vs Kipping, 1858
|Mar-06-09|| ||al wazir: <nuwanda>: I was too lazy to write out the whole analysis (so my claim isn't rigorous and maybe shouldn't be taken seriously). In answer to your question, you're right, it looks as if the white ♔ can't force its way into the black camp. But it doesn't have to.|
I'll post one line, which should convey the idea: 37. h3 Rg8 38. g4 Rf8 39. g5 Rg8 40. h4 Rf8 41. h5. Now if 41...gxh5, then 42. g6+, as you say. Otherwise black has to move his ♔ or ♗ (if 41...Rg8, then 42. hxg6+ wins). So, for example, 41...Bb6+ 42. Kg2 Bd8 43. h6 gxh6 44. gxh6 Bb6 45. h7 Kg7 46. Rxf8 Kxf8 47. h8=Q+, winning.
|Mar-08-09|| ||nuwanda: ok <al wazir>, but as i've already written, i think blacks g5 in response to whites g4 stops the whole idea of a white pawnstorm on the kingside...|
|Mar-08-09|| ||al wazir: <nuwanda: 37. h3 Rg8 38. g4> g5 39. fxg5. Regardless of whether black plays fxg4, g6, or Rf8 (39...Bb6+ 40. Kg2 just postpones the inevitable one move), nothing can stop white from getting a ♙ to g6 or h6 and winning. If 39...g6, then 40. gxf5 gxf5 41. h4. If 39...fxg4 or Rf8, then white plays the immediate 40. h4.|
|Mar-09-09|| ||nuwanda: hi <al wazir>,
i must be blind...
on 37.h3 i play 37...g5 at once and on 38.fxg Bxg5
i cannot see how a pawn will appear at g6 or h6
|Mar-09-09|| ||al wazir: <nuwanda>: 37. h3 g5 38. fxg5 Bxg5 39. g4. If 39...f4 or fxg4, then 40. Bd3, followed by Bg6+, so black must leave the ♙ on f5 where it is.|
Suppose he plays 39...g6 instead, which I think is best. The continuation might be 40. Kg2 Rg8 41. Kg3 Rf8 42. h4 Bd8 43. h5 gxh5 44. gxh5 Bg5 45. h6. Now if 45...Bd8/f6, Kg8, or Rg8, 46. h7 wins. Other variants may require the white ♔ to move to the f-file or capture the ♙ on f5.
I told you it was too complicated to write the whole analysis down, but you seem to be luring me into doing it by installments.
|Mar-10-09|| ||nuwanda: hi <al wazir: ...I told you it was too complicated to write the whole analysis down, but you seem to be luring me into doing it by installments.>|
i dont exactly know how you mean this. I dont want to annoy you, i just like discussing about chess. So, if you dont like, its perfectly ok.
i still dont believe that your pawnstorm works, after
37. h3 g5 38. fxg5 Bxg5 39. g4 g6 40. Kg2 black can take on g4, after black moving both g pawns the threat Bg6 is not deadly anymore due to Kg7
so white has to take back with 41.hxg
then black has several options, e.g. Bf6 and g5 or Rg8 and Rxg6 when white plays Bxg6
or not taking on g4 and playing Bf6 and g5 at once
Maybe all of this positions are still won for white, but not caused by the kingsidepawns, but only if the king invades, which could be done from the very beginning
|Mar-11-09|| ||Brown: <al wazir> Great work! I appreciate you sharing your alternate win on the K-side without the long king march.|
|Sep-07-13|| ||JoergWalter: See the similarity of the position after 36.Re8 with the final position in this game|
Kramnik vs Timman, 1995
|Sep-07-13|| ||perfidious: No wonder Morphy won this game-he was playing a fish!!|
|Sep-07-13|| ||HeMateMe: ^^best post I've read in weeks!|
|Oct-04-14|| ||Big Pawn: Salmon put up a pretty good fight here. He should have been proud of this game because, although he lost, he at least went the full ten rounds with the champ - which says something in itself.|
|Jan-05-15|| ||Ke2: <the evasion of the gambit by the move in the text would be the more prudent step> I sincerely doubt it Mr. Lowenthal. d5 is a garbage move which gives white both the compensation and the pawn.|
|Feb-25-15|| ||morfishine: I go over this game and I think "Wait, I need to go over this" and I go over it again, and prepare to click to another game and I think "Wait, I need to go over this again" and so I go over it again, and halfway through I think "Wait, I need to go over this" and on and on it goes, then I'm missing the basketball game and my wife is wondering why I'm late for dinner and I'm thinking "Hold it, I gotta look at this position" and so I look and the Gators lose again and dinners cold, but I don't give a crap because I'm thinking "Wait, what about this position?..."|
|Jul-04-15|| ||Ke2: similar endgame in J L Hammer vs M Vachier-Lagrave, 2015, although black has a way out in that case|
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