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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Rome 1619  ·  Owen Defense: Matovinsky Gambit (B00)  ·  1-0


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Jan-14-06   Amoceann: This is wrote 1919 in top right of my sreen instead of 1619.
Jan-23-06
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  Timothy Glenn Forney: Here's a game with the same mate:F M Teed vs E Delmar, 1896
Apr-27-06   dutchboy13: very nice game played by Greco
May-12-06   MagnaPsygnosis: wow.... it is clear to me now why Steinitz was the first world chess champion....
Oct-05-06
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  who: Regarding what if 1.e4 b6 2.d4 Bb7 3.Bd3 f5? 4.exf5 Bxg2 5.Qh4+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7. The correct continuation is 7.gxh7+ Kf1 8.Nf3! (the only winning move - analysis by Fritz) where

8...Bxf3 9.Qxf3+ followed by 10.hxg8+ and 11.Qxa8

8...Bxh1 9.Ng5

Oct-06-06
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  who: Sorry I made a fre mistakes in the pervious post.

Regarding what if 1.e4 b6 2.d4 Bb7 3.Bd3 f5? 4.exf5 Bxg2 5.Qh4+ g6 6.fxg6 Bg7. The correct continuation is 7.gxh7+ Kf8 8.Nf3! (the only winning move - analysis by Fritz) where

8...Bxf3 9.Qxf3+ Nf6 10.Qxa8

8...Bxh1 9.Ne5! Qe8 (9...Bxe5 10.dxe5 with mate to follow with Bh6+ and other attacks) 10.hxg8=Q+ Rxg8 11.Qf5+ Bf6 12.Bh6+ Rg7 13.Bxg7+ Kxg7 14.Qh7+ Kf8 15.Bg6

8...Nf6 9.Qg6 Bxf3 (9...Bxh1 10.Bh6 Rxh7 (10...Bxh6 11.Qxh6+ Kf7 12.Ng5+) 11.Ng5 and mate in 16) 10.Rg1 Rxh7 11.Qg3 Be4! 12.Bxe4 Nxe4 13.Qf3+ Kg8 14.Qxe4 with white having an advantage.

Most of white's moves are the only moves that will keep an advantage so it's hard to play.

Dec-04-06   psmith: <who> nice analysis.
Dec-08-06   Ch3ckmate: these greco games with moves 6-10 are great lol
Mar-19-07   laskereshevsky: HELLO

amazing!!...incredible!!.....im astonished!!!!

i never saw this game in my life.....
...about in the 1995/1997, i played (by white) the same exactly moves in a blitz-tournamen's game!!!......:-)

my opponent was a friend of my...
a ( that day a little absent-minded...)
2050 CM ...
i friendly joked him for years......
today hes a 2208....

Mar-19-07   laskereshevsky: of course,
i meant ELO FIDE POINT
Mar-20-07
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  sleepyirv: Hey, I'm new to algebraic notation. Why is it "gxh7" instead of "gxh7+"?
Mar-20-07   Ziggurat: <Hey, I'm new to algebraic notation. Why is it "gxh7" instead of "gxh7+"?>

It should indeed be 7. gxh7+.

Mar-26-07
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  fm avari viraf: Instead of 6...Nf6 Black should play 6...Bg7 7.gxh7+ Kf8 8.hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 & Black seems to be fine. Well, there is another interesting line in lieu of 7.gxh7+ 7.Qf5 Nf6 8.Bh6!? Bxh6 9.gxh7 Rxh7? 10.Qg6+ & Qxg2. Before feeding the Computers, I would like our Chess lovers to play themselves & enjoy.
Apr-19-07
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: In 'Play 1...b6' Christian Bauer states that your second line wins for White: 7.Qf5! Nf6 8.Bh6!! Bxh6 9. gxh7 Kf8 10. Qg6 Bc1 11. Qxg2 Bxb2 12. Ne2 and "Rg1 will prove lethal". It does indeed look quite frightening from Black's point of view. He thus says that "6...Nf6 is probably the best, saving energy after 7 gxh7+ Nxh5 8 Bg6 mate" ;-)
Sep-19-07   wolfmaster: Greco regarded this as his fsvorite game(or composition).
Jan-26-08   wolfmaster: This game is also the first "classic" game on Chessmaster.
Mar-31-08   OBIT: Yes, the critical test of 3...f5 comes after 6...Bg7, and this is the game that put the line out of commission:

G Den Broeder vs W Wegener, 1982

Aug-10-08
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  just a kid: NN gets mated in 8 moves without a queen!Embarrasing how embarrasing!
Oct-11-08   JonathanJ: i played exactly this game a few minutes ago on internet bullet!
Nov-28-08
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  Travis Bickle: <JonathanJ: i played exactly this game a few minutes ago on internet bullet!> Tough loss kid. Where do you think you went wrong?
Dec-04-08   alfa1867: 6...Ag7! garantizaba la defensa del rey y de la torre: 7.gxh7+ Rf8 8.hxg8=D+ Rxg8 quedando las negras con ventaja material, aunque posicionalmente tendrían que acomodarse un poco. Lo aconsejable es cambiar las damas lo antes posible (podría ser en d7 ó f8) y en general simplificar la posición con miras a finales.
Apr-09-09   WhiteRook48: 4 exf5! is clever
Jul-05-09   WhiteRook48: 3...Nf6
Oct-22-09   Wayne Proudlove: Greco's games must be composed didacticism, even I wouldn't fall for these traps and it took me a year just to figure out how the pieces in Chess move (slight exaggeration for the sake of argument). I'm interested in writing the best, most perfectly functional and also entertaining book on beginner's chess in the future and Greco definitely deserves a caefully considered chapter. I don't do much else these days except spend time alone, I don't even talk on the phone, the silver lining to that cloud is this website for the time being.
Oct-22-09   MaxxLange: <Wayne> yep. a lot of these games were composed by Greco, and seem to have been part of an uncompromising tactics curriculum
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