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Richard Reti vs Savielly Tartakower
"Sucker Punch" (game of the day Jan-16-2005)
Vienna (1910), Vienna AUH
Caro-Kann Defense: Main Line (B15)  ·  1-0

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Apr-14-11  Mozart72: I am free to kibitz what I think suitible. It is not my fault if you or any other person does not understand this "probability stuff".
Apr-14-11  bartonlaos: Looks like <AJ> forgot to post his annotations link to this game:

http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...

Apr-14-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: hee hee
Apr-14-11
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  OhioChessFan: LOL, I just came back through and saw there was no link.
Apr-14-11
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  OhioChessFan: Nimzo had a similar game with an early double check.
Apr-14-11
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  Phony Benoni: You mean Nimzowitsch vs NN, 1910?


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One of the first games I ever saw in a book.

Apr-14-11
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  OhioChessFan: From AJ's link: <For example: >/= <12.Ng5! Nxe5!?; 13.f4! Ng4; This could be forced here. >

12. Ng5 Nxe5 13. f4 Rxg5 is fine.


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12. Ng5 Nxe5 13. f4 f6 looks also looks okay for Black.


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Thanks Phony, yes. It was more accurately double check and mate.

Apr-15-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: Oooops!!!

My annotations of this game:
http://www.lifemasteraj.com/old_af-...

Apr-25-11  KingV93: This game is truly amazing and there is a lot of tactical instruction to be learned from. Fantastic.
Sep-30-11  DrMAL: Roman features this game (Roman's Lab #2) as an example of punishment for violation of opening principles. It's a good example 5.Qd3 was poor but 5...e5 (with 6...Qa5+) was even worse. After 8.O-O-O black's best is 8...Be7 with solid disadvantage. 8...Nxe4?? was answered with beautiful M3 pow!
Sep-30-11  andrewjsacks: Both individualists and creative chessplayers we all admire...
Sep-30-11  DrMAL: Roman was also great player even better theoretician he did a lot to help others (e.g., Korchnoi, Karpov, Kamsky I think he liked K-names) and chess world in general, cheers.
Oct-23-11  Dr Esenville: Analogic debute:
Carlsen vs S Ernst, 2004 (1-0)
Idea combination - anticipations of dialogue.
L Milman vs J Fang, 2005 (1-0)
Milman for away! The sector of image for you!
Spielmann vs B Hoenlinger, 1929 (1-0)
Rudolf Spielmann - chessmaster!
Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 (1-0)
Programm chess musical!
Oct-23-11  Dr Esenville: Why name this partien - "Sucker Punch"?
Nov-09-11  Nightsurfer: Does DÉJÀ VU exist? Some people say yes, some people say no.

But one thing is beyond any doubt: In the realm of chess there are stunning cases of DÉJÀ VU sometimes!

Just have a look at the finale of this game here <R Reti vs S Tartakower, Vienna 1910> - and then compare it to the finale of a game that has been played no more and no less than 100 years later at Hamburg, Germany in 2010: M Amini vs R Gralla, 2010 ... and there we go, the basic structure of the final phase of the 2nd coming M Amini vs R Gralla, 2010 is - with colours reversed - a replay of this game here <R Reti vs S Tartakower, Vienna 1910>.

A duplicity of events at the distance of 100 years exactly - and even the venue is similar, in both cases it has been a coffee house.

Maybe the Kabbala has got a point!

Feb-26-12  nezhmet: Koltanowski vs A Dunkelblum, 1923 There, Koltanowski beats a hack with this queen sac motif. But in the Reti-Tartarkower game, this was an incredible loss for a top ten player, even if it was an offhand game.
Feb-26-12  King Death: < nezhmet: Koltanowski vs A Dunkelblum, 1923 There, Koltanowski beats a hack with this queen sac motif...>

In this game Black was 17 and probably not a hack. I'm surprised that you an IM yourself would say something like this.

One more thing, I was a spectator at Lone Pine in 1980 when you didn't score real well and you would've probably been insulted if somebody had been as patronizing to you as you were in this comment. Sure Dunkelblum at 17 played weakly but that doesn't make him a "hack".

May-15-12  Llawdogg: Queen sacrifice, double check, checkmate!
Sep-21-12  vikram2791: After 8.O-O-O!!, Black is gone.

Another variation 10...Ke8 11. Rd8#.

I took three seconds to find that.

May-28-13
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  fm avari viraf: I think, Reti had prepared this trap for Tartakower & had to wait for nearly ten years till he butchered him.
May-28-13  TheFocus: Reti was born in 1889, so I guess he was about 11 when he thought of this trap?
May-28-13  TheFocus: If he waited 10 years to spring the trap, then he was 11 in 1900.
Dec-06-13  clownface: If you think like a champion you....
Mar-20-14  Makavelli II: Brilliant little game. Annotations from a book :)

GAME NO. 35

White: Reti. Black: Tartakower.

Caro-Kann Defence.

1. P-K4 P-QB3

2. P-Q4 P-Q4

3. Kt-QB3 PxP

4. KtxP Kt-KB3

5. Q-Q3

White wishes to castle as soon as possible on the Queen's side, in order to operate on the Queen's file with the help of the Rook.

5. ... P-K4

Here Black loses two moves in bringing White's centre pawn away. The manoeuvre therefore is not sound. QKt-Q2, KtxKt, and Kt-B3, or any other developing moves would be preferable.

6. PxP Q-R4ch

7. B-Q2 QxP

8. Castles!

Diag. 148

White prepares a magnificent mating combination, which can only be made possible at such an early stage, when the opponent has utterly neglected his development.

8. ... KtxKt

9. Q-Q8ch!! KxQ

10. B-Kt5 double ch K-B2

11. B-Q8 mate

A beautiful mate. If 11. ... K-K1, 11. R-Q8 mate.

Mar-20-14  Xeroxx: This game is famous.
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