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|Dec-29-03|| ||kaptajn4: shyleech, what do you mean you would like just once to see a mate like this otb? It happened in that game played in 2002....
By the way pretty easy comb, sac of another queen just like the rest of the games the last week. |
|Dec-29-03|| ||kaptajn4: 15 sec again!! |
|Dec-29-03|| ||patzer2: <Jonh Doe> Your suggestion of 17. Bf6 is a winning move, but does not lead to an immediate mate. Fritz 8 gives 17. Bf6 Nd7 18. Nxh7 Qxe3 19. fxe3 Nxf6 20. Nxf6+ Kg7 21. Nd7 Rfe8 22. Bd3 Rxe3 23. Qf1 (+2.53 @ 13/48 depth & 747kN/s). |
|Dec-29-03|| ||Catfriend: I won't be <kaptajn4> and won't say it took me 15 secs (It took me ~4)|
About the game..
1) 5..Be7? Is it good?
2)14.Re3! is a magnificent positional move
|Dec-29-03|| ||patzer2: After the pretty quiet move 18. Bf6!, it looks like one of those "and now White mates on the next move" positions. However, the situation is not so simple as it first appears, and I suspect it would take most experts and masters longer than 15 seconds to calculate (eight move mate involving two key waiting moves).|
After 17. Qh5!! gxh5 18. Bf6! Qe4!? the immediate mate on h7 is no longer available and Black has a tempo to move his rook and create an escape square. However, not to worry for now it remains only a mate in 6 problem (out of an original mate in 8).
The solution as previously analyzed by <Honza Cervenka> above (and with one side variation I added) goes 17. Qh5!! gxh5 18Bh6! Qe4!? 19.Rxe4 Rc8 20.Re7! h6 <20...Kf8 21.Rxf7+ Ke8 22.Re7+ Kf8 23.Ne6+ Kg8 24.Bxh7#> <20...Nd7 21. Bxh7+ Kf8 22. Rxf7+ Ke8 23. Re7+ Kf8 24. Ne6#> 21.Bh7+ Kf8 22.Rxf7+ Ke8 23.Re7+ and 24.Ne6#.
|Dec-29-03|| ||shadowmaster: Excellent game! Bravo, Honza! |
|Dec-29-03|| ||patzer2: A Fritz 8 alternative solution to today's problem is 17. Nxh7! Nc6 <17...Nd7 18. Bxd7> <17...Qxe7 18. Rxe7> <17...Bb4 18. Nxf8> <17...Ba4 18. Nf6+> <17...Kxh6 18. Bf6> <17...gxf5 18. Nf6+ Kg7 19. Rg3+ Kh8 20. Qh5#> 18. Bf6 Qxe3 19. fxe3 Bd2 <19..Rfe8 20. Qg4> 20. Qxd2 Ne7 <20...Kxh7 21. Qf2 is #6> 21. Nxf8 Nxf5 22. Nd7 c6 23. g4 Nh6 24. Qg2 Kh7 25. Qh3 with an easy mate to follow in 8 moves or less. |
|Dec-29-03|| ||patzer2: If 14...Ba5, I suspect Honza would have played 15. Be7! Qe8 16. Bxh7+ with a mating attack. Bravo Honza Indeed!! |
|Dec-29-03|| ||patzer2: <Catfriend> Better is 5...d5 as in Shirov vs Karpov, 2003 However, White still has good play as in Anand vs Mamedyarov, 2003 or Grischuk vs Gelfand, 2003|
|Dec-29-03|| ||talchess2003: <lost emperor> yes Bxh7+ is much stronger|
crafty didn't analyze Kg6, but after 13. Bxh7+ Kxh7 14. Ng5+ Kg6 15. Qd3+ f5 ( 15... Kf6 16. Nh7++ ) 16. Ne6 Qc8 17. Qg3+ Kf7 18. Qxg7+ Ke8 19. Nxc7+ Kd8 20. Qe7++ white obtains mate.
|Dec-30-03|| ||talchess2003: or more concise and probably more accurate would be 14... Kg6 15. Qg4 Qc8 16. Ne6+ Kf6 17. Qxg7+ Ke7 17. Nxf8+ Kd6 18. Qf6+ winning the queen |
|Jan-06-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: By the way, in position after 16...Ba5 white can continue also 17.Nxh7! Kxh7 18.Qh5+ Kg7 (18...Kg8 19.Bf6 gxh5 20.Rg3#) 19.Bxg6! fxg6 (what else?) 20.Qe5+ Kg8 21.Rh3 with a quick mate. |
|Jan-07-04|| ||Marnoff Mirlony: Very impressive ending. |
|Apr-04-04|| ||Vischer: Honza, what was NN like? didja get to meet him or just play him. |
|Jun-24-04|| ||Honza Cervenka: <what was NN like> It was a casual visitor of my chess club. I never saw him before. We both were watching some couples playing blitz for a while and then he asked me to play a game. We played several games without clocks during some three hours. This pretty miniature I had memorized and posted in Kibitzer's Café next day. The name of opponent I don't know. |
|Jul-10-04|| ||Calchexas: I played this game up to move 9 as white just yesterday. But I didn't play 10.Nc3. Should have gone over this first. |
|Jul-28-05|| ||Honza Cervenka: It seems to be that 9...Bb4 was a "novelty". Walbrodt played against Tarrasch 9...c6 (after a little bit different order of moves in the opening). See Tarrasch vs Walbrodt, 1894|
|Oct-05-05|| ||sitzkrieg: funny game/end!|
|Nov-08-05|| ||chancho: This is one fine game.|
|Mar-03-06|| ||dakgootje: Nice played by Honza|
|May-15-06|| ||zb2cr: <patzer2>,
In your comment re: the possible line 20 ... Kf8. White's position is so strong he also has 21.Rxf7+, Ke8; 22.Re7+, Kf8; 23. Nxh7+, Kf8; 24. Be6#.
|Sep-02-08|| ||apexin: brilliant game. Congratulations honza cervenka.|
|Nov-25-09|| ||FSR: A remarkable finish. The queen sac on h5 to mate with the three minor pieces is familiar, but I've never seen it in "slow motion" like this.|
|Dec-23-09|| ||Richard Taylor: Great finish!|
|Aug-19-14|| ||yureesystem: Aesthetically pleasing!!!|
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