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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Miscellaneous Game (1620), ?, rd 24
King Pawn Game: Damiano Defense (C40)  ·  1-0
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Jun-17-05
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  aw1988: Correction. Nc6 or Nd7 is better, but still leads to a bad position.
Jun-17-05
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  schnarre: Black needed to play 6...d5 here. If Black returns the piece after 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxe5+ Qe7 6. Qxh8 Qg7 7. Qxg7 Bxg7 8. Bc4 Ne7 9. 0-0 Nbc6 10. Nc3 d6 11. Re1 Bd7 12. d3 0-0-0 ...he still faces an uphill battle but has at least a fighting chance.
Jun-17-05
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  aw1988: 6...d5 7. Bxd5+
Jun-17-05
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  who: Yes but Qf5+ is no longer viable.
Jun-17-05
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  aw1988: Isn't it? d5 Bxd5+ Kg6 Be6
Jun-17-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: <aw1988> The line goes 6. ...d5 7.Bxd5+ Kg6 8.h4 h5 and heres the tricky move which is necessary to force the win 9.Bxb7! 1-0
Jun-18-05
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  aw1988: <InspiredByMorphy> How does Bxb7 work?
Jun-19-05
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  schnarre: <InspiredByMorphy> After 9...Bxb7 Qf5+ is available again, but after say 10. Qf5+ Nf6 11. e5 Bc8 Black's position is still bad but not yet finished. What is the continuation for 9. Bxb7? <aw1988> After 6...d5, 7. Bxd5+ Kg6, 8. Be6 Bxe6, 9. Qxe6+ Nf6 Black can hold on a little longer after 10...Nc6.
Jun-19-05
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  aw1988: <schnarre> Nf6 Qf5+
Jun-20-05
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  InspiredByMorphy: <schnarre> After 6. ...d5 7.Bxd5+ Kg6 8.h4 h5 9.Bxb7! Bxb7 10.Qf5+ Nf6 is not a legal move. After 10. ...Kh6 11.d4+ wins.
Jun-20-05
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  schnarre: <InspiredByMorphy> Gotcha! Thanks!
Oct-20-05  DeepBlade: The Damiano Defense, right? Nice opening kill for beginners, but this opening is never seen in top-level play today.
Nov-15-05  ice lemon tea: 2..f6 is the worst move i ever seen in opening. it block both queen and knight best move in the opening, Nf6 and at the same time leaves king open to the threat of white most powerful piece, the queen. and he has no good way to block the threat. this is not a game anymore. this is a slaughtering.
May-05-06  Alex S.: Check the kibitz's of Pedro Damiano for a nice way to equalize if not gain an advantage as Black, on the condition that White will take a free knight instead of developing.
Feb-20-09  dwavechess: 10/11 for Greco with Rybka 3 at 3 min. per move
Jun-20-09  WhiteRook48: 2...f6??
Oct-22-09  Starf1re: drukenknight: Hey knight, why dont you stick f6 into a chess computer and see what it produces. You maybe suprised.

drukenknight: Uh, I "stuck f6 into a chess computer" and what it produced was not surprising at all: a >+1 advantage for white. What the hell are you talking about? Thanks a lot for wasting 10 minutes of my time looking for some mystical "equalizing line" for black after 3)xe5

Aug-09-11  50movesaheadofyou: I crushed an ex-convict years ago when he played 2...f6??. He had been recently released, and said he had become "master" from playing in prison for so long. he resigned soon after 4...g6 5.Qxe5+, and accused me of playing "book".

Said: "I don't play book, I play from the gut."

whatever. master my ass.

Jan-14-12  Rosbach: Good game. Elegant discovered check and the discovered checkmate too.
Oct-16-12  Abdel Irada: When Black plays 6. ...Kg6, read it as, "I'm not sure if I want to get mated on g7 or h6, so I thought I'd create an opportunity to choose."
Oct-04-15  The Kings Domain: No mercy.
May-12-17  Yigor: It's similar to #4 Damiano-NN game (1512).
May-12-17  Joshka: LOL More "fake "games" surprised folks think these are real games, it's all BS
May-12-17
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  saffuna: <LOL More "fake "games" surprised folks think these are real games, it's all BS>

And then there's the new analysis, supposedly written by Fischer, surprised folks think this is real Fischer analysis, it's all BS

May-12-17
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  TheFocus: <saffuna: <LOL More "fake "games" surprised folks think these are real games, it's all BS>

<And then there's the new analysis, supposedly written by Fischer, surprised folks think this is real Fischer analysis, it's all BS>

<saffuna>, OUCH!!

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