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|Mar-09-11|| ||TheTamale: I don't like 2)... c6. I mean, what the hell...? It's like, "Oh, no! He's playing the Grob! I'd better go on the defensive but QUICK!!!" On the other hand, it at least shows a familiarity with the theme of the opening. Bottom line, I guess, is that the Grob is unstoppable.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||yadasampati: To <TheTamale>. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grob%2... : "The Grob is generally considered inferior and is usually not employed in serious competition. International Master John Watson writes, "As far as I can tell, 1 g4 is competitive with 1 h4 for the honour of being White's worst first move."|
|Jan-17-15|| ||andrewjsacks: Inspired pun that Dr. Demento would appreciate.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||Infohunter: I remember playing the Grob a few years ago in a turn-based two-game online match wherein each player had to play this opening, one game as White and one game as Black, against the same opponent. I recall that, as Black, I won fairly easily, while as White I got into some considerable trouble and would surely have lost had my opponent not made a serious mistake and allowed me to turn the tables. Frankly I just can't see myself playing 1.g4 in a go-as-you-please game.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||Once: I don't know, I really don't.
If I put my sensible head on, the grob is a load of pants. And we're talking several-day-old crusty man pants and not the exciting frilly dental floss numbers that have at least something going for them.
White doesn't contest the centre, doesn't do much for his development and, in some lines, throws away a pawn for an uncertain attack. Bad grob, very bad grob.
But let's put our positive head on instead. Many openings are based on queenside castling with the idea of throwing pawns and pieces at the enemy castled on the kingside. 1. g4 does threaten g5 to kick a later Nf6. If black grabs the g pawn with the bishop, white gets to play c4, riffing on the fact that b7 is no longer defended.
And white gets black out of book.
All things considered, the grob may not be good enough for the highest levels of play, but I can see it winning a lot of points in the more affordable levels of the chess food chain.
|Jan-17-15|| ||OhioChessFan: Great pun.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||morfishine: Our friend <waustad> explains the title of this game: C Bloodgood vs L Lundy, 1968|
|Jan-17-15|| ||mrknightly: My favorite version of the song with the Chieftains and Mick Jagger.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||waustad: <mrknightly> That's a nice performance. I learned the song from The Band but heard it from Johnny Cash and who all else back around 1970. By the way, nice nickname. I also discovered Jane Austen around that time, and she's better at skewering a pompous idiot than anybody else I've read.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||sakredkow: Long Black Fail|
|Jan-17-15|| ||OhioChessFan: My favorite version is The Band:
|Jan-17-15|| ||Penguincw: Probably the last game Claude Frizzel Bloodgood played while he was still free...|
|Jan-17-15|| ||disasterion: Tortuously brilliant pun. Always liked the Band's version...|
I used to play the grob a lot, back in the day on freechess, with mixed results. Was particularly fond of 1.g4 d5 2.c4. It should be terrible for white... but it's a great irritant, and black would often overreach in the ensuing tactical chaos, in an effort to prove just how unsound it was.
|Jan-17-15|| ||johnlspouge: "Long Black Veil"
[ http://prevodi-pesmi.com/pesem/poka... ]
|Jan-17-15|| ||Wild Bill: Very good pun today.
For those uninitiated to American folk music:
|Jan-17-15|| ||FSR: The version by Lefty Frizzell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50k...|
|Jan-17-15|| ||Check It Out: Good pun!|
|Jan-17-15|| ||morfishine: I never heard this song, and after listening to it, I'm glad I didn't|
|Jan-17-15|| ||Domdaniel: I've played openings with an early g4 by White, such as 1.b3 g6 2.Bb2 Nf6 3.g4 or 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.b3 g6 3.Bb2 Bg7 4.g4. And there are g4 lines in the Philidor and Slav, and the Korchnoi Gambit vs the Dutch.|
But somehow 1.g4 seems beyond the pale.
|Jan-17-15|| ||waustad: The person who resubmitted it even threw in the "knight". Thanks.|
|Jan-17-15|| ||Conrad93: How did Bloodgood win so many games with the Grob? How weak was the opposition? Sheesh...|
|Jan-17-15|| ||MikeB20: I feel dirty just playing through this game.|
|Jan-18-15|| ||Domdaniel: Allowing White to play 18.Ne6, hitting the Queen on d8 and threatening mate on g7, is not good. A brown-out.|
|Dec-05-17|| ||schnarre: ...Don't tend to play the Grob much. A bit too demanding an opening for me I think.|
|May-17-19|| ||wtpy: Also from The Band's debut-- Chess fever.|
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