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|Jan-02-06|| ||thathwamasi: I had to good fortune of meeting Anand in chennai and when asked about this game, he just smiled and said " both of attacked, exchanged and developed the pieces. The closer he came to my king the more i wanted to sacrifice, but eventually the three fold was glaring at both of us"|
|Jan-16-06|| ||yalie: did kramnik allow the perpetual because 25. a4 loses? on the face of it, looks like a4 is worth a shot.|
|Mar-29-06|| ||bramdas: <thathwamasi> Anand is one sweet guy, don't you agree? Such manners and humility in a man who will go down as one of the greatest! Killer instinct hidden behind tremendous grace and humility.|
|Mar-29-06|| ||tud: Not enough killer instinct. Takes breaks sometimes in rush. More ambition needed for his talent.|
|Jan-18-07|| ||Udit Narayan: absolutely brilliant game!|
|Feb-26-07|| ||yalie: < CowardlyKnight: Averageguy Eh, sorry, I haven't had the time to come here for some time. I hope you weren't offended by my post because I meant it as a compliment... It's a very nice draw by Kramnik don't you think so? I sure enjoyed it very much. Drawing is a very important and hard skill to master but Kramnik's grasp of it never ceases to bewilder. >|
that was funny!
|Feb-26-07|| ||VinnyRoo2002: Is 25. Rxh6 forced? What's wrong with something like 25. Nb3?|
|Feb-26-07|| ||sheaf: <vinnyroo2002> 25.Nb3 Bg5 26.bxc3 Nxc3+ 27. Ka1 Nxd5 28.Qh4 Nf6 etc black has 2 pawns for the exchange and not so unsafe king.. so i guess should be able to hold anyways.. so kramnik decided to call it a draw..|
|Feb-27-07|| ||VinnyRoo2002: What about after 25. Nb3 Bg5 26. f6?|
|Feb-27-07|| ||sheaf: 26.f6 Qxf6 27.Qxf6 gxf6 28.bxc3 Nxc3+ 29.Ka1 Nxd1 30.Rxd1 b6 31.Bb7 a5 etc black has three pawns for a knight but more importantly the blacks king is ready to roll with the central pawns. i guess it shouldnt be too difficult to hold for black in this line either, the doubled pawn is not really a weakness since it can be exchange for the pawn on e4. Rooks off the board and i would personally like blacks position.|
|Feb-27-07|| ||VinnyRoo2002: 26...Qxf6??? The queen can't take on f6. It's an illegal move because the pawn on d6 is blocking the sixth rank.|
|Feb-27-07|| ||sheaf: for some odd reason i didnt even bother to look at the position while writing my posts i apologise for that, its just that this is one of those games i have reviewed so many times. <vinnyroo2002> Nb3 Bg5 is not the way to go about it. but rather much simpler 25..Qe3 is menacing enough with the same idea as in the first post and one doesnt even need to worry about f6 in that line, bxc3 is not possible since Nxc3+ followed by knight taking on d5 leads to similar stuff( black has a couple of pawns for exchange)....|
|Feb-27-07|| ||VinnyRoo2002: 25...Qe3 does look strong. Now I know why Nb3 is too slow. I'll analyze with Fritz later, just to get some more concrete lines. Thanks for your analysis though, I enjoy going over lines with fellow kibitzers.|
|Feb-05-08|| ||VaselineTopLove: Another similar game with Anand on the white side this time.|
Anand vs Kasparov, 1996
|Feb-05-08|| ||Shams: <<yalie> did kramnik allow the perpetual because 25. a4 loses? on the face of it, looks like a4 is worth a shot.>|
this post is two years old. How does black proceed on 25.a4<?> I must be missing something obvious but I can't make ...Na3+ or ...Nd4 work.
|Feb-05-08|| ||euripides: <Shams> I'm not sure but I think Black may have <25.a4> Na3+ 26.Ka2 Rc2 or 26.Ka1 Rc2. Then 27.Nc4 Nxc4 28.Rb1 Rxb2 or 27.Rb1 Nxb1 or 27.Bb3 Qd4 28.Nc4 fxg6 or (after 26.Ka1 Rc2) 27.b3 Qd4+. 27.Nb3 looks best when 27...Qf2 or 27...Nc4 both look unclear to me.|
|Jun-25-08|| ||Abejorral: Interesting game, between those two, and the expected result with draw master like Kramnik|
|Sep-17-08|| ||DoubleCheck: The draw arises from black repeating checks on white's king
26. Ka1 Nc2+
27. Kb1 Na3+ 1/2-1/2
Black must continue doing this to avoid Qh7#
if 25.a4 as people above are suggesting,
25. a4 Na3+
26. Ka2 Rc2!( with Qb1 mate )
27. Bb3!(should save white)
But then I found this !
(1st possible continuation)
25. a4 Ra3! <- this the key move
26. bxa3 Nc3+
27. Kc2 Rc8
28. Nc4 Rxc4!
29. Bxc4 Nxa4
30. Rb1 Qf2+
31. Kb3 Nc5+
32. Kb4 leads to mate Qd2#
if 32. Kc3 Qd4+ forcing king to c2
33. Kc2 Qxc4+ (winning queen 34...fxg6)
(2nd possible continuation)
25. a4 Ra3!
26. bxa3 Nc3+
27. Kc2 Nxa4
28. Rb1 Qd4+
29. Ka2 Qxd2+
30. Ka1 Qd4+
31. Ka2 Nc3+
32. Kb3 Nxb1
33. Rxh6! Qxd5!!
34. exd5 fxg6
35. Rxg6 Rc8
(winning for black with superior material and position)
if 30. Kb3 Qc3+ !
31. Kxa4 b5!
32. rxb5 axb5+
33. Kxb5 Rb8+ wins
34 Ka6 Qxa3#
(34. Ka4 Qb4#)
|Oct-09-08|| ||jaydes: Quite obviously, Mig Greengard didn't include this game when he said that Anand at his best beats Kramnik at his best. The problem for the upcoming match in Bonn is, they aren't at their best - atleast in the eyes of us kibitzers. Here's to hoping that there is atleast one such gem in the match.|
|Oct-09-08|| ||percyblakeney: <Quite obviously, Mig Greengard didn't include this game when he said that Anand at his best beats Kramnik at his best.>|
Kramnik isn't all that easy to beat when he's white even when he's at his worst... Here Anand was probably very content with a draw with black, since he was +4 and on the way to winning Corus (Kramnik was +1 and ended up with an even score).
|Oct-13-08|| ||yalie: as far as I could see, a4 is no good - it loses to Na3+.|
25. a4 Na3 26. Ka2 Rc2 27. Nb3 Qf2 28. Kxa3 Rxb2 29. Rxh6 Ra2 30. Kb4 a5
31. Kb5 Qe2 32. Bc4 Qxc4 33. Kxc4 fxg6 )
I missed Qc4 in this line - so I felt it looked promising for white. ! for Anand for spotting it when he played Qb6 (maybe even earlier) and an equal ! for Kramnik for not falling for it when a4 looked so promising. Amazing - Anand is one move from mate, but if Kramnik does not take the draw, it is he who loses several moves down the road. most moves in the line I gave are forced, so I am pretty sure this is what both players saw.
|Jan-03-09|| ||WhiteRook48: oh I thought Kramnik would win.|
|Jan-20-09|| ||WhiteRook48: these pins were so funny. Why isn't this Game of the Day yet?|
|Feb-21-09|| ||WhiteRook48: almost like a Morphy game- Morphy always takes advantage of pins|
|Sep-29-11|| ||fetonzio: of course kramnik´s immortal is a draw|
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