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| Oct-06-07 | | beginner64: There is so much symmetry in the final position. This game is a dream. No, wait its a nightmare. |
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Oct-06-07
 | | kevin86: The final position was a masterpiece in black and white. I have seen and loved this game for many years. |
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Oct-06-07
 | | playground player: Love that Albin Countergambit! Never saw this game before: as Mr. Spock would say, "Fascinating." |
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Oct-06-07
 | | JohnBoy: <iron> - just copy the URL and paste it in. It will show up as the game. Polugaevsky vs E Torre, 1981 |
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| Oct-06-07 | | Crowaholic: Very interesting mate with all four minor pieces. White's opening play did look _dodgy_, though, wasting time on premature queen maneuvers while allowing Black to rapidly develop his knights and bishops. Finally there is 15. Nf3?? where White self-blocks a vital escape square. 15. Bf4 would have been better, but it's all over anyway since Black can just grab the h rook with impunity. |
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| Oct-06-07 | | Nasruddin Hodja: Hmmm. White's 3rd and 10th moves are definitely dodgy, but 12. Rb1?? is so incomprehensible that I have my doubts that this game is genuine; it may simply be a composition by someone who wanted to show off a symmetrical four-piece mate. |
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Oct-06-07
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <iron maiden: Another suggestion, Benjamin: Polugaevsky-Torre, 1981, after 18. f4. (I didn't know how to paste a link.)> Polugaevsky vs E Torre, 1981 |
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Oct-06-07
 | | Calli: <this must have been set up> Many have been suspicious this game. Once tried to trace the score, but with no luck. However, I did find players named Dodge and Houghteling in Illinois events around 1910, so there is still a chance that the game is legit. Perhaps the two made it up ala Torre and Adams. |
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| Oct-06-07 | | pawnofdoom: Hey I remember seeing this game in some issue of Chess Life. Maybe the Albin countergambit isn't so bad after all... |
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| Oct-06-07 | | xrt999: 7.f3? weird. Nb4 then Nc2 by black is imminent and white does absolutely nothing about it except exhange queens. At the very least white is going to lose a rook with f3. I mean, a whole rook, not even a sacrifice. The bishop guards the c2 square. Horrible play by white. |
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| Oct-07-07 | | Crowaholic: <Nasruddin Hodja: Hmmm. White's 3rd and 10th moves are definitely dodgy, but 12. Rb1?? is so incomprehensible that I have my doubts that this game is genuine;> The third move is a mistake according to current opening theory but 7. f3? is a real bummer as <xrt999> explains. Instead, 7. cxd5 Nb4 8. Bb5+ c6 9. dxc6 Qxd1+ 10. Kxd1 would have allowed White to stay in the game. 12. Rb1 looks like a last misguided attempt to prevent the knight fork, but 12. Nxe4 would have been better for damage control. |
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Oct-07-07
 | | Calli: Here's another game by Houghteling
Houghteling,J.R. - Cornell,L.S. [C11]
Chicago Championship
Chicago, Illinois, USA, 12.1902
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Qg4 c5 6.Be3 cxd4 7.Bxd4 Nc6 8.Nf3 a6 9.Bd3 Qc7 10.0-0 Nxd4 11.Nxd4 Be7 12.f4 Bc5 13.Nce2 Qb6 14.c3 g6 15.b4 Be7 16.Kh1 Qc7 17.h4 h5 18.Qxg6! Nf6 19.Qg7 Rg8 20.exf6 Rf8 21.fxe7 Qxe7 22.Rae1 1-0 Position before Houghteling played 18.Qxg6!
 click for larger viewI will submit the pgn to CG. |
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Nov-09-08
 | | sleepyirv: < capablancakarpov: http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/... Item 355 for full story about this kind and mate plus more examples.>
It's amusing that a game that might have been falsed would be reverse in a real game. |
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Nov-10-08
 | | Gilmoy: There is noughteling what Houghteling saw ... |
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| Nov-10-08 | | Travis Bickle: Who's Morphy? ; P |
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| Mar-18-10 | | SirChrislov: Anyone who runs across this little beaut will surely end up with a smile on their face. Gems like this make you appreciate the artistic value of the game. I wish it was more well known. In the words of Forrest Gump, "And that's all I have to say about that." |
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| Mar-18-10 | | ounos: Nice. The black pieces form a cycle of protection, of length 4. I.e., Bd3 protects Nc2, which protects Be3, which protects Nf2, which protects...Bd3. Talk about team work! |
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| Feb-06-11 | | Akavall: Amazing final position in this game, and I like the symmetry in Black's set up after move 14 as well. |
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| Feb-06-11 | | SamAtoms1980: Are you saying this game was for real? Were they serious? |
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Feb-06-11
 | | Phony Benoni: Why shouldn't it be for real? Just because a game is remarkable doesn't mean it's a fake. Of course, there are examples of players dressing up games to reap 15 minutes of immortality. But I generally prefer the "Innocent until proven guilty" principle in these cases. |
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Jun-03-11
 | | GrahamClayton: <Calli>Many have been suspicious this game. Once tried to trace the score, but with no luck. However, I did find players named Dodge and Houghteling in Illinois events around 1910, so there is still a chance that the game is legit. Perhaps the two made it up ala Torre and Adams. <Calli>,
The game was reproduced in the chess column of the "San Fransisco Call", dated February 16, 1913. They received it from Elmer W Gruer, a Californian native who was in Chicago. He claims that the game was recently played at the Chicago Chess Club. Seems a bit fishy to me - I wouldn't consider 1904 to be "recent". |
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| Nov-09-11 | | Oceanlake: The score is in The Golden Treasury of Chess, Francis J. Wellmuth, 1943. He was an old-timer, Californian. Looked like Harry Truman. |
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Dec-02-11
 | | FSR: From Tim Krabbe 's Open Chess Diary, No. 355: <PS 10 April 2008: A communication by Frederick Rhine makes it clear that speculations of Houghteling - Dodge [actually Dodge-Houghteling - FSR] being a hoax, are unjustified. "The Houghtelings were a prominent and rich family in Chicago in the late 19th and early 20th centuries," as Rhine writes. He gives one other game by (J.R.) Houghteling: J R Houghteling vs L S Cornell, 1902> http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/... |
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| Jan-13-12 | | master of defence: I played a game in the internet almost with the same finish of this. See the PGN and comment:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nf6 4. Bc4 h6 5. dxe5 dxe5 6. Qxd8+ Kxd8 7. Nxe5 Ke7 8.
Nxf7 Rh7 9. Nc3 Nc6 10. Bf4 Kd7 11. Nd5 Nxe4 12. Nxc7 Rb8 13. Be6+ Ke7 14. Bd5
Nf6 15. Bd6+ Kd7 16. Be6# 1-0 |
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| Jun-20-12 | | hellopolgar: people notice that in the end:
c-knight protect e-bishop which protects f-knight which protects d-bishop which protects c-knight! |
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