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|Jul-21-13|| ||al wazir: I did NOT get this one.
What happens after 32. Kg1 ?
|Jul-21-13|| ||Blunderdome: <al wazir: I did NOT get this one.
What happens after 32. Kg1 ?>
Qg3 does it.
|Jul-21-13|| ||al wazir: <Blunderdome: Qg3 does it.> Duh, thanks. (He slinks off to bed, crestfallen.)|
|Jul-21-13|| ||diagonalley: breathtaking finish... absolute gem|
|Jul-21-13|| ||Jausch46: Not seeing the brilliant Bg1, I have found another interesting working variation after the first intuitive move 30. ...Qg5+.
31. Kh2 Ng4+
a) 32. hxg Bd6+. If Kg1, Qxg4+, Bg3, Qxg3 and mate next move.
If 33. Bg3, Qh4+. If the King retreats to 34. Kg1, then Qxg3+ etc. If the Queen defends with 34. Qh3, then Bxg3+, 35. Kg1, Qxh3, and mate in one or two moves.
Fine combination both ways.
|Jul-21-13|| ||patfoley: I likewise saw 31 Ng4ch followed likely by Bd6. Not quite as beautiful perhaps.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||morfishine: Black is down a piece and 2 exchanges and so must win quickly; The position is exuding "pattern recognition", but what pattern?|
White certainly wouldn't fall for 30...Qh4 31.Bxc5?? Qg3+ 32.Qg2 Qxg2#
So, the best I could conjure up was
30...Qg5+ 31.Kh2 Ng4+ 32.Kg3 Nh2+ 33.Kxh2 Bd6+ 34.e5 Bxe5+ 35.Bg3 Qxg3#
PM: Wow, a superior move order, and Wa-La: Brilliancy
|Jul-21-13|| ||Once: This is one of those times when I didn't solve the puzzle in full, but it still made me smile. 32...Bg1+!! Delicious, like honey and yoghurt. Deflects the white queen from the defence of h3 and denies the white king a flight square on g1. Black will end the game with just queen and bishop, but that is all he needs.|
I'm on holiday at the moment - a large international hotel on the Northern coast of Crete. Breakfast is an enormous buffet of everything you could possibly imagine to break the night's fast. You could assemble a full English with bacon, sausage and egg. Or any combination of German cheeses and wursts. Cereals from some industrial factory machine. Toast, croissants, pain au chocolat, Danish pastries. It is a United Nations of gluttony,
Or you can have a slice of melon, sweet and fresh, uncomplicated, tasting of sun and dew and not a lot else. A cup of coffee, very black. Freshly squeezed orange juice. Good company.
Sometimes all I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by. Or a plate of fresh fruit. Or a queen and bishop mate. This much, and no more. Any more would be a waste. There is great beauty in simplicity.
Yeah, yeah, and wifi in the hotel lobby and sufficient technology to plug into the Interweb. All I ask is free wifi and an ipad to tap upon. Doesn't have quite the same ring, does it?
|Jul-21-13|| ||agb2002: Black has one knight and two pawns for two rooks.
White threatens 31.Bxc5.
The first idea that comes to mind is 30... Qg5+ 31.Kh2 Ng4+
A) 32.hxg4 Bd6+
A.1) 33.Kh3 Qh6#.
A.2) 33.Kg1 Qxg4+ and mate in two.
A.3) 33.Bg3 Qh4+ 34.Qh3 (34.Kg1 Qxg3+ 35.Qg2 Qxg2#) 34... Bxg3+ 35.Kg1 Qxh3 36.Bxf3 37.Qh2+ Kf1 38.Qf2#.
B) 32.Kg1 Nxf2+ 33.Kh2 Bd6#.
C) 32.Kg3 Nh2+ 33.Kxh2 Bd6+ 34.Bg3 Qxg3#.
Another option is 30... Qh4, trying to reach g3:
A) 31.Bxc5 Qg3+ 32.Qg2 Qxg2#.
B) 31.Bxf3 Qg3+
B.1) 32.Bg2 Nf3+ 33.Kh1 Qh2#.
B.2) 32.Qg2 Bxf2+ 33.Kf1 and White seems to hold.
I'd play 30... Qg5+.
|Jul-21-13|| ||GreatAjax: <an Englishman> would you count Anand vs S Bell, 1988 in your Champion for a day list?|
|Jul-21-13|| ||cyclon: I'd go here for 30. -Qg5+ 31. Kh1 Ng4+ and now;|
1.) 32. Kg3 ( 32. Kg1 Nxf2+ 33. Kh2 Bd6+ mates next ) - Nxf2+ 33. Kxf3 ( 33. Kh2 Bd6+ mating ) -Qe3+ 34. Kg2 Qxh3+ 35. Kg1 Qh1X or,;
2.) 32. hxg4 Bd6+ 33. Bg3 ( 33. e5 Qxe5+ 34. Kh3 Qh2X, or 34. Bg3 Qxg3X ) -Qh4+ 34.Qh3 Bxg3+ 35. Kg1 Qxh3 36. Bxf3 Qh2+ 37. Kf1 Qf2X.
Yet, there's an "ambient" (3rd) way to mate White in case of ( 31. -Ng4+ ) 32. Kg3 ; - 32. - Ne3+ 33. Kxf3 ( 33. Kh2 Bd6+ mates next ) - Qf6+ 34. Kg3 Bd6+ 35. e5 Bxe5X.
Not really "insane", I think, but more like a 'web' of "improbable sureties".
|Jul-21-13|| ||PhilFeeley: When all else fails, sac the house. There must be a win in here somewhere!|
|Jul-21-13|| ||cyclon: Black's game-solution to the dilemma - "I'm more than a Rook down and IF I don't do it now I don't do it never" - was in the nexus of 'insanity' and 'beauty'. That line NEVER occurred to me. CUFFLINKS to Latino for the IMAGINATION, but HAT to me.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||gofer: Don't think this is a "Sunday" puzzle. Maybe "Wednesday" perhaps...|
<30 ... Qg5+>
<31 Kh2 Ng4+>
32 Kg3/Kg1 Nh2+
33 Kxh2 Bd6+
34 Bg3 Qxg3#
<32 hxg4 Bd6+>
33 Kh3 Qxg4#
33 Kg1 Qxg4+ mating
<33 Bg3+ Qh4+>
34 Kg1 Qxg3+ mating
<34 Qh3 Bxg3+>
<35 Kg1 Qxh3>
<36 Bxf3 Qh2+>
<37 Kf1 Qf2#>
It looks like white has been out played, horribly. Black
at the start of this position is approximately a whole rook
down, but he is winning at a canter...
Time to see what black did so brilliantly...
Okay this is "The Uruguayan Immortal", which would explain
the battering at white's expense. But what's wrong with
31 ... Ng4+. At least someone agrees with me... <agb2002>.
So maybe I am not going mad, but...
<which is best 31 ... Qf4+ or 31 ... Ng4+?>
|Jul-21-13|| ||Nick46: < Phony Benoni: ... But we tend to overate the brilliancies we're familiar with and underrate the unknown.> Wise woids. One (the public) also overrates crap produced by the erstwhile brilliant. Perhaps not chessplayers but writers, musicians, performing artists, etc.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||GilesFarnaby: <gofer: Okay this is "The Uruguayan Immortal", which would explain the battering at white's expense. But what's wrong with 31 ... Ng4+. At least someone agrees with me... <agb2002>. So maybe I am not going mad, but...|
<which is best 31 ... Qf4+ or 31 ... Ng4+?>
The g1 square makes all the difference.
|Jul-21-13|| ||RandomVisitor: After 19...Qa8, white had other options that arguably were better:|
click for larger view
Rybka 4.1 x64:
<[-0.01] d=25 20.f3> Bd5 21.Rac1 Bxc4 22.Rxc4 Rxc4 23.Bxc4 Bc5 24.Rc1 Rd8 25.Be1 Ne5 26.Bg3 Nd5 27.Bxd5 Qxd5 28.Kf1 Nd3 29.Rc4 Bb6 30.Nd4 Nc5 31.e4 Qg5
[-0.23] d=25 20.Qf1 Nc5 21.Nb6 Bxg2 22.Qxg2 Qxg2+ 23.Kxg2 Rc6 24.Nc4 Nxd3 25.Nxa5 Ra6 26.Nc4 Ne4 27.f3 Nec5 28.Rab1 Rc8 29.Bc1 Rd8 30.Bd2 e5 31.e4 Rc6 32.Na7 Rc7 33.Nb5 Rcd7 34.Kg3 Nf4 35.Rb2
|Jul-21-13|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: <GreatAjax>, Anand-S. Bell seems like a reasonable candidate, but CG has to fix the game score--right now, it appears that the 19 year old future WC missed the win of an entire Rook.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||devere: After I saw that 31...Ng4+ would win I didn't look further, but 31...Qf4+ is a more brilliant win. A very nice finish, although White's 20th move Nbd6?? was ridiculously bad.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||chrisowen: Moot germane on point de rigueur i lavish queen in, |
as hero xray credible shape up re cook 30...qg5+,
being aha bad as h5 fan fare ok beef in due,
dilligence oomph aid see a ok blows hot and cold,
sad to see 20.nbd6 spoils the party after seminal!
A8 bad inch effront hugs the rails right band i give spark d6 free covenant re ignoble mission upon ye bed word 20...Bxg2 old jangle a bit hasty d6xc8 instead off bed to a 21.e4 holds the peace down,
band a churlish aperture light holed out 20.nbd6.
Bxg2 21.Nxc8 Rxc8 vigilance and vim queen battery to be 22.re1 getting off bishops d-line black now ledge invader a8 springs to life d5 and h5,
especially be chin 24...Rxc4 elevated white knight off in eg queen delve over done h5 and touched by the light bishop fooled by big cadence ogle am buffed about ex-press 26.bf4 ng4 all gate to effaced bread of heavens 27.be2 low and behold,
above and beyond his reach aka ok better majesty,
win d5 over h5 dire straights light hand of finger,
bond 30...qg5+ old grace descend slam bad no across hide away too fed a 31.Kh2 i light sway second,
inadagio guess hop a 31...Qf4+ or ng4+ amend yes,
wool pulled over his king hoof see be 32.bg3 and ay,
in a bit docked intent boot for beck and call again,
devious come g1+ even ng4+ mate in four hid string,
see bishop check believe get able way in 32.Bg1+ you better a mind sum use ham 33.Qxg1 eminate dig,
afraid see ng4+ in us has hope for hits 34.hxg4 Qh6+ aim in sees huffle hah mixed 35.bh4 and stand Qxh4#.
|Jul-21-13|| ||James D Flynn: Black is hopelessly down in material with a N and 2 pawns for 2 Rs. His chances lie in a K-side attack where his pieces are well positioned to attack the White K. this attack must proceed with a series of checks because if he allows White to exchange the crucial B on f3 his schances of success are small.
30…..Qg5+ 31.Kh2 Qf4+(to take away the g3 square as an escape route for the White K) 32.Bg3(if Kg1 Qg3+ 33.Qg2 Qxg2#) Bg1+(to force the Q off the defense of the Hfile by Qh3) 33.Qxg1(if Kxg1 Qxg3+ 34 Qg2 Qxg2#) Ng4+ 34.hxg4 Qh6+ 35.Bh4 Qxh4#|
|Jul-21-13|| ||jancotianno: Didn't see the game moves but seen a slightly longer mate 30...Qg5+ 31.Kh2 Ng4+ 32. Pxg4 Bd6+ 33. Bg3 Qh4+ 34. Qh3 Bxg3+ and mate soon follows.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||Marmot PFL: Had the idea but missed 32...Bg1+. Great game.|
|Jul-21-13|| ||gars: As <Marmot PFL> did, I saw the idea but missed 32) ...Bg1+. But this puzzle seems too easy for a Sunday, doesn't it? |
<chrisowen> I love your writing style! Did you learn it in Frank K. Young books? I quote him: "The minor left oblique refused is inferior to all strategic fronts directed either by the right or by the left or by the right refused".
|Jul-21-13|| ||bubuli55: Who was Luis Roux Cabral?!
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