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Karel Hromadka vs Karel Treybal
"A Christmas Karel" (game of the day Dec-24-2005)
Match (1912), Prague AUH, rd 6
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Bardeleben Variation (C29)  ·  1-0

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Dec-24-05  rya: tempo, game was too fast paced, I looked at Nxc2 as well. Just seems like a patzer move.

Excellent game btw, this is my favorite opening as white, except that I play Bc4 before I gambit the pawn.

Happy holidays everyone.

Dec-24-05  Confuse: yes, everyone have a merry christmas and a happy new year! : )

I like how the rook, bishop and pond all contribute to the defeat of the lady. nice game.

Dec-24-05  Averageguy: <Confuse> I'm assuming you mean "pawn" when you said "pond". BTW, Merry Christmas to you too.
Dec-24-05  chesscrazy: Have a nice holiday everyone. BTW, this game was nice. A beautiful game.
Dec-24-05
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  OhioChessFan: Black's 10th move is awful. He ends up letting White set up the Bishop pair on e3 and f3, with tempo, and the Queen has to retreat to e7, where she could have gone in the first place. And 15...Nxc2 seems so obvious. I don't know if Black could have saved the game anyway at that point. White's Bh6 was a nice touch, and Black should have resigned at that point.
Dec-24-05  EmperorAtahualpa: Beautiful attack by Hromadka.

<<<<Merry Christmas everyone!>>>>

Dec-24-05  avidfan:


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Position after 29.Rd1-f1, threat is Rf8#. At move 30 Black could not take the pawn at e5. So 30...Qc5 when 31.e6 causes the blunder Qxa3.

32.Rc1. Black is forced to give up queen to avert Rc8# as c8 cannot be defended.

Dec-24-05  avidfan: 12.Be3! Black avoids the trap Qxe3 when 13.Bxc6+ wins the wayward queen.
Dec-24-05  dakgootje: great game of Hromadka, Treybal certainly didnt play too well...Ow and before i forget it

<!!!!Merry Christmas everyone!!!!>

Dec-24-05  Phi: nice queen sacrifice...

Merry Christmas to everyone!

Dec-24-05  THE pawn: It's not exactly today, but...<merry christmas to all of you! love, presents, peace and a bright future for everyone.>

Dec-24-05  kevin86: A nice CHristmas present from chessgames-a queen sac and a snazzie attack to boot! White eventually ends up a bishop ahead after the smoke cleared.

ERRY CHRISTMAS!!

Dec-24-05  kevin86: oops-MERRY CHRISTMAS! My monkey ate my M before.
Dec-24-05  dakgootje: Fewwie 'Ewwy Kwismwas to eveywone ;-)
Dec-24-05
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  al wazir: <avidfan: 31.e6 causes the blunder Qxa3.>

Why do you call that a blunder? I call it zugzwang. If black doesn't move his ♕, white plays 32. Rc1 anyway. If black plays Qe7 or Qd6 white plays 32. h3, followed by 33. Rf7.

Dec-25-05  Cogano: I am quite inexperienced, but I've learned this much: it all comes down to better positional understanding & superior opening. Regardless which side is doing the sacrificing, especially if it's a queen sacrifice, if they don't have a winning position period, regardless whether they're attacking with the queen or another piece, then even if it's a nice sacrifice, even-tually the player's forced to lose or draw, because of their inferior posi -tion. I don't mean to be patronizing if this too obvious to the rest of you.

If you want a prettier queen sacrifice, check out the game between T. Pet-rosyan vs. L. Pachman (King's Indian Attack) played in 1961, at Bled. According to the chess columnist who provided it in his weekly column, it has a curious flaw, by my reckoning the queen sacrifice itself, as White could've played it one move earlier & avoided giving Black the chance to defend against it, which he failed to do, since he failed to accurately assess the position & realize White's threat. It's an example of the queen sac games I like because the one feature they have in common, besides the queen sac, is that Black or White is mated either way, & often the queen is checking anyway, so it must be captured which seals the King's fate by trapping him in the mating net. Enjoy. Season's Greetings to everyone, & Happy New Year. Take very good care & have yourselves a most joyous day, every day.

Jul-23-18
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  fredthebear: White "sacrifices" his sitting queen for Black's rook, pawn, and bishop as collected by 25.RxRf7, 26.Rxg7+, and 28.RxBg3. These three Black units are equal to 9 points in typical chess values. The fact that they were kingside defenders makes them worth more positionally.

Let's include 1 more value point for White. Hromadka also played the "just take it" 24.Rxf5 as the Black rook is overloaded and MUST sit still to prevent the White queen from delivering checkmate on g7. It's easy to pick the pocket of the vital defender of the mating square, but not always easy to find at first glance. (Where is the mating square? Where are the defenders? Pester those defenders. What happens if I capture here and/or there? Will s/he recapture? etc. etc.)

All in all, Hromadka's capture sequence is about equal materially, but it sure is beautiful in it's execution.

Jun-06-25  Walter Glattke: 25.Rxf7 a) 25.-Qxf7 26.Qxh4 b) 25.-Bxg3 26.Rxg7+ Kf8 27.Rd7+ Ke8 28.Rxd5 c) 26.-Kh8 27.Rxg3 Rg8 28.Rxg8+ Kxg8 29.Rf1 Qf7 30.Rxf7 Kxf7 31.d5
Jun-06-25  Walter Glattke: d) Match continuation 31.-Qe7 not Qxa3, 32.Rf7 Qe8 33.g4 b5 34. Kg2 a5 35.Kf3 b4 -++
Jun-06-25  mel gibson: I chose 25. Qg4 and Stockfish 17 agrees with me:

25. Qg4

(25. Qg4 (1.Qg4 Bd8 2.Rdf1 Bb6 3.Rxf7 Qxd4+ 4.Qxd4 Bxd4+ 5.Kh1 gxh6 6.Rxb7 Re8 7.Rd1 Bc5 8.a4 Rxe5 9.Rd8+ Bf8 10.g3 a5 11.Rb5 Re7 12.Rxa5 Kg7 13.Rf5 Re1+ 14.Kg2 Be7 ) +5.85/38 173)

score for White +5.85 depth 38.

But if I force SF to play the game ply it's slightly better.

25. Rxf7 Bxg3

(25. .. Bxg3 (1. ... Bxg3 2.Rxg7+ Kh8 3.Rxg3 Re8 4.Kh1 Rc8 5.h3 Qe4 6.e6 Qxe6 7.Bg7+ Kg8 8.Rf1 Qg6 9.Rxg6 hxg6 10.Be5 Rc2 11.Kh2 Ra2 12.d5 Rd2 13.d6 Rd3 14.Rc1 Kf7 ) -6.67/39 345)

score for Black -6.67 depth 39.
Look at how closely SF follows the game line.

Jun-06-25
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  scormus: A brilliant combination. I had a gut feeling it might be 25 Rxf7 followed by the next few text moves, but only because it was a puzzle and I didn't see how it was winning.

I picked the same as <mel/SF17>, which would have been my OTB move. On checking, I see my SF16 makes the same choice. Similarly, when I forced 25 Rxf7, the eval came out slightly better, but only after going to d=43. Amazing that the W played OTB the better move 25, and followed it with SF best play.

Jun-06-25
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  chrisowen: I mucky its v glib Rxf7 its a bath its latch its fell its aao ko its ajar its off its aoh its a fig pug bug Rxf7 its eel;
Jun-06-25  vajeer: Saw 25.Rxf7 Bxg3 26.Rxg7+ Kh8 27.Rxg3
Was happy with whites's position at this point. Black rook has no good spots on the back rank really as the SF analysis and the game text shows. In desperation(from black's perspective) I tried 27...a5


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White now wins after 28.Bg7+ Kg8 29. e6! And now black is left with no defence.

Jun-06-25  alshatranji: A complicated position with quite a few options. e6 is interesting. I saw the main line (25.Rxf7Bxg3 26.Rxg7+Kh8 27.Rxg3), and I went with it as (probably) the best option. But to be honest, I wasn't entirely sure why, except that it seems to be the only way to move forward. There are no imminent threats, though the white pieces are active, and in the long run the passed pawns may be effective and the black king may be compromised. So all speculation. I guess this is what comes from being a purely tactical player. I always need something tangible. (Interesting points by Cogano by the way).
Jun-06-25  King.Arthur.Brazil: By reading "difficult", the king feels tempted to play a sacrifice like: 25. Qxh4 Rxf5 26. Bxg7 Kxg7 27. Qg4+ Kh8 28. Qxf5. W has 2 passed ♙, reduced the material and B♔ is exposed. Otherwise: 26. Bxg7 Rf7 27. Bf6 and W has a strong attack with: Rf1-Qg4+-e6 are in the plans.
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