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Sergey Karjakin vs Vladimir Kramnik
Dortmund Sparkassen 2004  ·  Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1-0


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Oct-14-04   alexandrovm: It seems like Kramnik was unconfortable to lose this game to a "child". He lost in 90 moves! Sergey proved to Kramnik that he is a great player...but not that great ;)
Oct-14-04
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  iron maiden: BTW, what was the exact time control for this game?
Oct-14-04
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  acirce: 10 5 according to ICC.
Oct-15-04   alexandrovm: a very fast time control
May-12-05   Backward Development: So I guess this 9...Ne7, 10...Ng6 and subsequent Bb4 maneuver is Kramnik's new way of handling the Berlin? Very nice win by the youngster where countless others failed, even in a blitz game.
Aug-19-05   offramp: I think if you learn chess very young, like Capablanca, Reshevsky and Karpov, you are more of a positional player, but if you learn it relatively late, like Blackburne or Nezhmetdinov, you are more of a tactical player. What a boring comment. It's hardly worth posting. I might as well now that I've bothered to spell Nezhmetdinov.
Aug-20-05   SEMENELIN: <offramp> i don't agree with what you have stated earlier. I think Karjakin had a good ending game. No matter if youre a late bloomer age doesnt interpret a chess player how he plays. Observe this game carefully. This game is to the death. It is the mastery of the endgame that is being emphasized here. Karjakin had a good ending game. End games are the most exciting part of a chess game.
Aug-20-05   offramp: <SEMENELIN> I agree with all that you said.
Aug-24-05   Queens Gambit: Young prodigy here win to Kramnik in a very nice way.
Mar-14-06   alexandrovm: Sergey won this with a lot of energy, 90 moves for a dificult game to win. This time his agressive king did well and was a key factor, together with his bishop, for this nice game over Kramnik.
Mar-28-06   jamesmaskell: Fantastic endgame technique by Karjakin. I wouldnt have bothered fighting to the end there, I would happilly have given a draw offer and been proud to have gotten the half point against Kramnik's Berlin Defence. It takes a lot of willpower to stay out that long in a very tricky endgame.
Mar-28-06
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  pawn to QB4: Yes, truly a fantastic game. I appreciate that Karjakin had more opportunity than Fischer to take on great masters, but it's still worth noting that the earliest win by RJF against a comparable master seems to be Smyslov vs Fischer, 1959 and he was older than Karjakin at the time. How we would have raved over a win like this...a great world champion had failed to break Kramnik's defence in this opening throughout an entire match. I wonder how many times we'll see this level of skill and determination from Karjakin in the fututre?
Mar-28-06
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  keypusher: <pawn to QB$> Actually this was Fischer's first win over a top-flight Soviet GM, played in June 1959: Fischer vs Keres, 1959

Your point still holds, though.

Mar-28-06   Jim Bartle: <pawn to QB$>

Yes, quarterbacks do earn a lot of money.

Mar-28-06
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  keypusher: For dispensing my hard-won knowledge I am repaid with scorn!

Speaking of quarterbacks, will my Dolphins be happy or sad they acquired Daunte Culpepper, do you think?

Mar-28-06   Jim Bartle: Not sure. Do they have cruise ships for rent in Miami? (Sorry)

Don't know about Culpepper, but probably will be better than Fiedler, Griese the Younger, et. al., not as good as Marino or Griese the Elder.

How's that for going out on a limb?

Apr-03-06   Whitehat1963: Karjakin takes his cue from Kasparov vs Kramnik, 2001 to beat Kramnik in the Opening of the Day.

Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik ... Karjakin?

Dec-19-06   Aseem: Chess games.com I think you guys have made a serious mistake, this game is not to be seen in the chess base report of Dortmund 2004. There in round 5 Kramnik has played against Bologan
Dec-19-06   Aseem: Chessgames.com please look into the matter
Dec-20-06   rover: <Aseem> It was played in the rapid tibebreaks.
Dec-20-06   Aseem: <Rover> Thanks!!
Jan-25-07   AAAAron: Karjakin's endgame is very impressive!!! I wonder how Kramnik handled the loss. I bet he drank all the booze in his hotel room, then trashed the place. Kramnik does have that crazy look in his eyes.....
Sep-30-07   argishti: AWSOME ENDGAME!! wow!!
Dec-06-08
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  Fusilli: <AAAAron> LOL! Actually, he is probably one of the calmest GMs around, that's why your post is really funny. Amazing endgame. I wonder if Kramnik blew it.
Mar-05-09   WhiteRook48: totally messed up!
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