Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand (2005)

Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players ·

Kibitzing

Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand
14th Amber Tournament: Rapid (2005) (rapid), Monte Carlo MNC, rd 4, Mar-22
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67) · 1/2-1/2

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening	find similar games	198 more Kramnik/Anand games
	PGN: download \| view \| print	Help: general \| java-troubleshooting

TIP: Some games have photographs. These are denoted in the game list with the

icon.

For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Mar-22-05		aragorn69: Funny (and sort of poetic justice !) to see Anand use the Berlin wall to secure a draw against Kramnik :-0

Mar-23-05		patzer2: Interestingly White's control of the d-file and slightly better dark squared Bishop give him full equality, despite the pawn deficit in the final position. The fact that Black's extra pawn is doubled also helps.

Mar-23-05		chesscookie: I don't get it. Why use the Berlin wall when Kramnik knows it inside out?

Mar-23-05		kakt: chesscookie: What opening does Kramnik not know? With white, if he wants to, he proved that he can win any game(his last game against Leko,"best defender," in WCC).

Mar-23-05		actual: if he wants to???!

Mar-23-05		kakt: Yep, if he has the motivation, he proved that he can even kick kasparov's ego around. He won his match without losing a single game to kaspy. Of course, Anand is not Leko and Kramnik himself agreed that it's harder to beat Anand than it's to beat kaspy. But still, as black if you want to "surprise" a world champion, you want to play something he least expects and prepares for.

Mar-25-05		a30seclegend: So does a Berlin Defense always lead to a draw?

Jun-11-05		DP12: Quite often but there is no such thing as always. Besides, some weaker GM's use black's to bishops to create winning chances!

Jun-11-05		arifattar: what is a berlin wall?

Jun-11-05		aw1988: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. O-O Nxe4 5. d4 Nd6 6. Bxc6 dxc6 7. dxe5 Nf5 8. Qxd8+ Kxd8 Called in chess as the Berlin Wall, because despite the loss of castling and doubled queenside pawns, black nevertheless has far greater potential resources than white. To try to attack two of black's drawbacks, for example, Bg5+ just loses a tempo to Ke8, and the doubled pawns on the queenside are not weak, but extremely dangerous, since it is 4 vs 3 in a simplified position. Kramnik brought this weapon out against Kasparov in their 2000 match. Hitherto it had been absent for over a hundred years!

Jun-11-05		aw1988: "Berlin Wall" because of its' solidity.

Jun-11-05		arifattar: thanks <aw 1988>

Jun-11-05		bishopmate: <chesscookie>... <I don't get it. Why use the Berlin wall when Kramnik knows it inside out?> What you also don't get is that Anand and Leko have surpassed Kramnik and Kasparov as the two most thorough players (in openings). Anand probably knows the Berlin Wall just as inside out as Kramnik... i would think more, since he drew with black

Jun-11-05		SnoopDogg: How can you make this claim?? I've heard that before from another GM maybe on chessbase but then someone like Nunn criticized him heavily the following week or something like that. Did Linares 2005 teach you anything. Kasimdzhanov vs Kasparov, 2005 Show me a similar recent Anand or Leko win with a 21+ move deep preparation like that. Sorry, but chesscookie does not deserve to be treated like a fool.

Nov-04-05		Queens Gambit: Event at Rapid chess Kramnik makes short draws!!!!

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!

If you already have an account, you should login now.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
Nothing in violation of United States law.
No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: RAPID. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.