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| May-02-05 |
| Skepticus: I saw the same solution as <sipahi>. But of course Ne2+ and the Queen sacrifice is more ellegant. |
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| May-02-05 |
| aw1988: I got a slightly different solution. Is it right? Ne2+ Kh1 Ng3+. |
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| May-02-05 |
| Zymurgy: I saw the Q sac but I also saw this 21...Ne2 22.Kh1 Rh4 then all white can really play is h3 where black plays Rxh3 and mate is forced after gxh3 by Qxh3. Is this wrong somehow? |
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| May-02-05 |
| RookFile: Solved in about a second. A great
book to read is Renaud and Kan's
"The Art of the Checkmate". Read
that book, and you solve things like
this even in blitz games. |
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May-02-05
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| Knight13: I thought I have to checkmate the king on e7 and I was like "WHAT?" I couldn't find then answer. Then I checked the answer and it was Black checkmating the king on g1!! Geez. |
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| May-02-05 |
| reprizent: It's a classical, but it's still beautifull! |
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| May-02-05 |
| ryanpd: <aw1988> That move works too, but you have to show how black continues after Kg1. :) I'll let you figure it out. |
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| May-02-05 |
| Ezzy: <Zymurgy> Your line wins easily, but after 22..Rh4 23 Qe4+ Rxe4 24 h3 Rh4 25 Kh2 black has to wait another 7 moves before delivering mate. |
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| May-02-05 |
| aw1988: <ryanpd> Why, Nxf1. |
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| May-02-05 |
| ryanpd: <aw1988> I would suggest that after 23. Kg1, then 23. ... Bxf2+! is much stronger: 24. Rxf2 Qd1+ and mate follows. It's a couple moves slower than Falkbeer's line, but still very pretty. |
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| May-03-05 |
| zb2cr: <aw1988>,<ryandpd>, I think we can stipulate that when:
(a) Black has 4 pieces focused on White's Kingside;
(b) White has one piece defending;
(c) White's only other active piece is out of
position;
(d) Black has multiple pins both current and
potential in hand;
that there will be multiple mates possible. I just wish I could get such a dominating attacking setup! |
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May-05-05
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| patzer2: The puzzle solution 21...Ne2+! sets up a basic deflection mating pattern. |
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| Sep-25-08 |
| megalinks1: It's a variation of one of my old favorites. I saw it quick. |
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Dec-12-08
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| amadeus: @#$%*@! |
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Dec-12-08
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| JointheArmy: I was thinking one of Falkbeer's games, but for a different reason given. |
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Feb-09-09
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| An Englishman: Good Evening: Bellissima! |
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Feb-09-09
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| Once:  click for larger viewA stock mating pattern that you simply must know. Black mates by force, but you must get the order of the moves right. 1. Ne2+ Kh1 Black starts by forcing the king into the corner. The e2 knight covers both the g1 and g3 squares, meaning that white's king is stalemated. 2. Qxh2+ - not the "tempting" 2. Rh4 because 2...h3 blocks the attack. Note that we could not start with 1. Qxh2+ Kxh2 (forced) because the followup moves are no longer forcing. 2. Ne2 g3! or 2. Rh4+ Kg3! and the mating pattern doesn't work. Black might still win by bringing other pieces into the attack, but why make life harder than it has to be? 2...Kxh2 Rh4#
 click for larger viewOf course the same mate works with the queen and rook on different starting squares from this puzzle. As long as the queen can get to h2 and the rook can get to the h file (without white being able to block), this pattern works. |
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| Feb-09-09 |
| gus inn: The final position could have occured in a Kramnik-Anandgame , in one of the keyvariations. A simular position happened in the famous Marshallgame.The one that ended -Qg3!!!. |
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Feb-09-09
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| kevin86: I guess white had a headache from drinking too much (Falk)beer. lol A nice Anastasia's mate. (Not to be confused with Anasthesia's mate-also from too much (Falk)beer.) |
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| Feb-09-09 |
| ounos: Here is my beautiful combination:
20. Qxb7 <Ne2+>
21. Kh1 Qxh2+ !!!
22. Kxh2 Rh4#?!?. :P
23. Bxh4 oops |
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| Feb-09-09 |
| ounos: Oh, I just saw that this was the pattern that was played out, only correctly. |
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Feb-09-09
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| Travis Bickle: A little Queen sac and death! |
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| Feb-09-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Anastasia's mate |
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Feb-09-09
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| Domdaniel: This was all pointed out three-four years ago, but here we go again: After 20.Qxb7? Black played 20...Kxe7 - not to 'win' a bishop so much as to clear h4 for the coming mate; and white duly plays ball by grabbing the rook, 21.Qxa8. Then a pretty mating combo follows. But Black had a forced mate earlier:
20.Qxb7 Ne2+!
21.Kh1 Ng3+
22.Kg1 Bxf2+
23.Rxf2 Qd1+
24.Rf1 Qxf1#
It may take a move more than Falkbeer's mate, but the forcing sequence starts a move earlier - and aesthetically the result is pleasing too. In the game line, white could have struggled hopelessly on with something like 20.Qxb7? Kxe7? 21.Nc3 (covering e2), when Black will certainly win but there's no quick mate. The e2/g3 springboard and the pinned white pawns are a little like the famous <American Beauty> game, S Levitsky vs Marshall, 1912. It was said that the God Zeus appeared at the game in the form of a golden shower. |
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Feb-09-09
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| zdigyigy: <An Englishman> My thoughts exactly. |
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