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Viswanathan Anand vs Michael Adams
MTel Masters (2005), Sofia, Bulgaria, rd 5, May-16
English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. Hedgehog Defense (A30)  ·  1/2-1/2


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May-16-05  ahmadov: I think the word "dogma" does not fit here. For me it is not a dogma, I acquired faith through lots of reading of the Bible, the Koran and other religious and scientific books. For me religion is part of knowledge than a dogma. I lived in the Soviet Union until I was 18 when the USSR collapsed. I regret for that bit of my life because we had no knowledge of Allah. But I have to say that I do not support any violence or disrespect to other religions. This is not what Islam teachs us.
May-16-05  ashalpha: Look again after 48...Nd2 49.Bg6 Ne4? g4! 50. fxg4? h5 and count. What will eventually be Bishop and Queen versus Queen is far from easy to draw especially with these rules. 50.f4 g5 51. f3 Bf7 and black may be able to draw but it looks interesting doesnt it?
May-16-05  PinkPanther: <ahmadov>
You're the one that turned this into a religous discussion when you stated that there is no other God besides Allah. In reality though, the entire world laughs at your fraudulent, backwards religion.
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  Gypsy: <ashalpha: 45. Bd3 f4 46. gxf4 Nxh4 47. Ke5 would have continued Black's troubles. 47.. Kg6 is answered by 48. Ke5 and 47...Ng6 by 48. Kf5.> Sorry, your post was getting buried under some strange stuff. Your 45.Bd3 f4 46.gxf4 Nxh4 47.Kee looks like the key variation. Black best reply may be 47...Kg7, but it is not clear if it is a sufficient reply.
May-16-05  ashalpha: I could not find a decent response either. After 48.Ke5 it looks pretty grim. 48...Ng6? Kf5 and either the h pawn will fall or the White king will eventually maneuver the f pawn down with the help of the bishop.
May-16-05  WillC21: <ahmadov> If you were an ant or a turtle, Allah would not be on your mind. As a mature person, please recognize religion is in place only for motivational purposes. Every human needs motivation, and thus bows down to their own self-contrived hobgoblin.
May-16-05  arifattar: <WillC21> It also helps me make sense of the world.
May-16-05  WillC21: <arifattar> Making sense of the world is part of the motivation and assurance religion provides. I think it's silly, but if you are willing to let a figment of your imagination guide you through life(the 77 Virgins waiting for you in Heaven is awful tempting I imagine) ;o) then that's your decision.
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  Gypsy: <ashalpha ...After 48.Ke5 it looks pretty grim. 48...Ng6? Kf5 and> Yes, Black is almost forced to play 48...Nf3+, but his position remains difficult. White bishop and king sort of dominate black pieces.
May-16-05  square dance: <(the 77 Virgins waiting for you in Heaven is awful tempting I imagine);o> islam does seem to have the best selling point. but as far as religions are concerned i hold them all in an equal amount of contempt.
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  keypusher: <(the 77 Virgins waiting for you in Heaven is awful tempting I imagine)>

Yeah, but with my luck, they'll all be from WEST Virginia.

May-16-05  drchess9999: haha, every where around the world you can find debates on religion. I sense that there is an overall majority here who are not any sort of believer. One question, how come every chick I came across are mostly religious in some way? Has this got anything to do with their self-confidence?
May-16-05  martinshortsays: <drchess9999> Wandering about a convent trying to pick up women is fruitless.
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  Calli: 32.c5 - I miss the point. Why does he give back the pawn?
May-16-05  ajile: The whole point of whites strategy is to pile up on Blacks weak D pawn. If he is going to let black play D5 and get away with it he needs to be sure he has some other tangible compensation. He never got it. I would have liked to see white maybe even play E4 at some point and then triple up on the D file. Black will be suffering for a long time and is bound to crack under the pressure sooner or later.
May-17-05  fenno: Instead of 34. Bc8, 34. Bg2! (found by Fritz 8) f5 35. Bf1 and when black plays a5, then Bb5 seems to be the way to go for white in the endgame.
May-17-05  arifattar: <WillC21><squaredance> I am sure, if one wanted it wouldn't be too difficult to find 77 virgins in this world.
May-17-05  ughaibu: Calli: the knight's trapped.
May-17-05  ashalpha: fenno: Why does black have to play 35...a5? 35...Kf7 suffices when 36. Bc4+ and 36...Ke7 will allow a5 and Nd7.
May-17-05  fenno: <ashalpha> I did not say _when_ black has to play a5, but I do think he has to. 36. Bc4+ is waste of time. 36.Kg2 with the intention of f3 is better.
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  acirce: <32.c5 - I miss the point. Why does he give back the pawn?> As <ughaibu> says, the knight is trapped, and if nothing else, Black can enter an opposite-coloured bishops endgame with ..Nd7 and ..Nc5 or ..Nc6 and ..Nd8. Must be drawn even pawn down here. The way White played offered better chances, although I don't think he ever had a win there either.
May-17-05  square dance: <<WillC21><squaredance> I am sure, if one wanted it wouldn't be too difficult to find 77 virgins in this world.> difficult is a relative term.
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  OhioChessFan: Fenno: Instead of 34. Bc8, 34. Bg2! (found by Fritz 8) f5 35. Bf1 and when black plays a5, then Bb5 seems to be the way to go for white in the endgame. Cincy: I see the point in Bg2 forcing f5, but I don't see black playing a5 in response to Bf1. Even if he did, what is the advantage for white to play the bishop to b5 instead of c4? It seems to me that the bishop to b5 ends up with the same position as the game after move 43 anyway. Maybe it could move to e2 instead of h6 at that point, but that doesn't seem to accomplish much.
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  Calli: <acirce> <ughaibu> I was thinking 32.Bg2 f5 33.f3 and the horse is not trapped. The opposite bishops is a good point though.
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  ChessCoachClark: This game is included in CHESS EXPLAINED: The English Opening (Franco; 2006).
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