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|Feb-28-06|| ||sisyphus: <square dance: isnt Q vs R a very difficult ending, or am i mistaken?>|
Funny, I was looking at http://chess.about.com this morning, and it describes Q vs. R as one of the "elementary endgames".
Earlier I was studying it in Averbakh's <Chess Endings: Essential Knowledge>, which was written for intermediate players. The winning method isn't obvious, but it isn't especially tricky, either.
Sure, it can take 30 moves, but only 20 to force the K and R apart, and to win the R with a fork. The rest is just a K+Q mate.
I always figured it was something every expert should know -- and something I'll need to master if I want to get there.
|Feb-28-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Concerning the endgame of "K+Q vs. K+R" ... you should really visit my endgame school. (http://www.angelfire.com/games4/lif...)|
If you scroll down the page, you will discover that I have written a whole series of articles about this ending, there is even a basic position that is named after me, and this has been documented in many different chess magazines.
The ending is NOT as simple as many make it out to be, I have watched several masters blow this ending. And, of course, there is the TRUE account of how the curent U.S. Champion could NOT win this position against a computer ... even though he had forty moves for 2.5 hours to play the position.
|Feb-28-06|| ||Jim Bartle: That's right, AJ, you just reminded me. Who was the GM that couldn't mate the computer with queen vs. rook?|
|Feb-28-06|| ||LIFE Master AJ: <Jim Bartle>
Walter S. Browne ... and the computer was "Belle." (This was all covered in an issue of "Chess Life," many years ago. I don't recall the exact year, but I do remember that it had a picture of Browne standing next to a roulette wheel on the cover. I think that issue covered the comp article and also Browne's win of the National Open ... that used to be held in Las Vegas every year.)
All this is covered in many of the articles and links on my endgame page ... you should really check them out.
|Feb-28-06|| ||Jim Bartle: Hey, if you're trying to win this ending, it can't be any fun seeing the computer hum along contentedly instead of looking at an opponent sweating bullets!|
I think Browne is known for fidgeting. He must have been a sight trying to mate the computer.
|Mar-10-06|| ||chessmoron: Shame on you, Topalov, losing to Vallejo-Pons|
|Mar-10-06|| ||Jim Bartle: That loss must seem half a world away now...|
|Mar-11-06|| ||Whitehat1963: The achievement of the tournament.|
|Mar-11-06|| ||capablancakarpov: <chessmoron> Yes, what a shame.... the fourth world chess champion that has lost against Vallejo ( Kramnik,Ponomariov,Khasimdzhanov and Topalov) plus others like Leko or Svidler...|
|Mar-12-06|| ||jojotamsteIIiot: in move 38, wont topalov win?|
|Mar-12-06|| ||jojotamsteIIiot: never mind|
|Mar-18-06|| ||Veselin Anderson: Very good game by Paco!!|
|Sep-10-06|| ||Alex S.: <EricSchiller: Playing to checkmate is an insult to the opponent, but it is best to play on, without taking a huge amount of time on each move, until the position is clearly lost even to a 1200 player.>|
Actually, I disagree to a small extent, although I'm certainly no GM and I've never played a tournament. After much going through the games on the database, checkmate is so satisfying to any student, more than a resign, that I think if I were to ever sit down in a tournament, before we began, I'd explain to my opponent this stance on checkmates prior to sitting down.
Of course, this stance only holds true in middlegames and tactical mates whilst most of the pieces are still on the board, which fits with Mr. Schiller's stance. If I'm King + pawns VS. King, Queen and Rooks, I'd resign.
|Nov-19-06|| ||syracrophy: <<chessmoron: Shame on you, Topalov, losing to Vallejo-Pons>>|
Yeah! I agree!
And if someone finds a way to avoid the mate with 57...♕e8#, please call me to 1-800-TOPALOV-IS-LOST
|Feb-15-07|| ||Brown: Topalov is the new Marshall|
|Nov-24-07|| ||notyetagm: Position after 24 ... c2-c3:
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Black's advanced pawns on both wings seem to control the whole board.
A guy at my chess club calls an advance of the Black pawns like this "The March Of The Penguins".
I really like how Vallejo Pons has activated his king's rook (the one on c6!) with the maneuver 13 ... ♖h8-h6, 21 ... ♖h6xc6.
|Nov-24-07|| ||notyetagm: Game Collection: Grooming passed pawns for promotion|
Topalov vs Vallejo-Pons, 2006
Position after 30 ... ♗f8-a3:
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Black (Vallejo Pons) here gives you a textbook example of how to support a passed pawn with your pieces.
|Jan-15-09|| ||WhiteRook48: none of Topalov's brilliancy is shown in this game.|
|Jun-09-12|| ||Ranjan: Topalov could play one more move 57. Qb5! is that magical move!|
|Jun-20-16|| ||Phony Benoni: Not only does this pun look like Latin, it seems to have something to do with propositional logic. I'm not touching it with a ten-foot pole, regardless of the consequences.|
|Jun-20-16|| ||catlover: Impressive play by Paco. I wonder what Topalov thought about seeing his king driven to the seventh rank. |
<Phony Benoni> You're a genius to have figured out that the pun had something to do with prepositional logic. I couldn't make heads or tails of it.
|Jun-20-16|| ||The Kings Domain: Nice attacking game by Pons. At his best he's come up with some of the most compelling games of the sport.|
|Jun-20-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: No one can accuse Topa of resigning too early :)
And here I offer an alternative GOTD title:
He blew up all over Topa like a volcano.
|Jun-20-16|| ||kevin86: The pieces are all over the place!|
|Sep-29-16|| ||Rookiepawn: Modus Tollendo Tollens, or simply Modus Tollens: if statement A implies statement B, and statement B is false, then statement A is also false.|
Modus Ponens is the reverse: if A implies B, and B is true, then A is also true.
A lot of Latin and ancient Greek thought schools, but in the end, much less complex than this game.
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