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Victor Winz vs Moshe Czerniak
"Winz and Losses" (game of the day Oct-01-2010)
First Lasker Chess Club Championship (1939), Tel Aviv ISR
Neo-Grünfeld Defense: Goglidze Attack (D70)  ·  0-1
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Dec-22-06
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  Phony Benoni: One of the craziest games ever. Many players would have resigned after 13.Rxa7, but Czerniak keeps fighting and eventually prevails. The attempted stalemate trap at the end (41...b1Q?? 42.Rg8+!) is the perfect finish.

For the power of a Black pawn on e3, see also Portisch vs Kavalek, 1975, in which it just about compensates for a queen.

Oct-01-10  C4gambit: Why did white exchange the queen for a rook and a bishop?
Oct-01-10  nuwanda:

yes, crazy, fascinating game...

blacks solution to the final stalemate-problem seems a bit strange. check and a second queen looks like mate in a few moves, but on the other hand, is doesnt matter much...

Oct-01-10  adbat: not perfect finish. mate in 6- 41...Qg1/42.Rg3-Qf1/43.Rh4-b1Q/44.Rg8-Kg8/45.Rg4- -Qbe1/46.Rg3-Qe4/47.Rg4-Qg4++
Oct-01-10
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  thegoodanarchist: During the opening I kept thinking "What is White doing? Develop your pieces, man!"
Oct-01-10
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  whiteshark: <31...Qf2!!> is worth a look.


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Oct-01-10
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  whiteshark: Well, above position arose after <33...Qf2>, too.

1) 34.R8e5 e1Q 35.Rxe1 Qf3+ 36.Kh4 h6 37.g5 hxg5+ 38.Rxg5 Qf4+ 39.Kh3 Qxg5 40.Re8 f5 41.Rg8+ Kf7 42.Rf8+ -18.28/18

2) 34.Ra3/Rb3 Qf1+ 35.Kg3 e1Q+ 36.Rxe1 Qxe1+ 37.Kf3 b5 38.h3 b4 -22.85/18

3) 34.Rg3 Qf1+ 35.Rg2 g5 36.Rexe2 Qf3+ 37.Rg3 Qxe2 38.Ra3 h5 -23.39/17

4) 34.g5 h6 35.gxh6+ Kxh6 36.Ra3 g5 37.Rh8+ Kg7 38.Re8 f5 -23.53/18

Oct-01-10
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  Phony Benoni: <C4gambit: Why did white exchange the queen for a rook and a bishop?>

Are you asking about the position after <23...Kg7>, when White played <24.Rxf3>?


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White has no choice about giving up the queen, due to the threat of ...Rd1+. His misfortune was not being able to save the bishop on d3 afterwards.

Oct-01-10
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  kevin86: A crazy one! Black will queen after white takes the original queen. Q vs R endings are almost always won,except if the rook's side can set up a blockade.
Oct-01-10  scormus: Winz and los(s)es. The pun is mightier than the (s)word.
Oct-01-10
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  Chessmensch: From what I've been able to find out, Czerniak means melanoma, often malignant melanoma. How does one get a name like that? Also, Czerniak played a match against Nadjorf and didn't do too terribly badly. http://jewishchesshistory.blogspot.... Incidentally, a link on that site tells us that Nadjorf's birth name was also Moshe.
Oct-01-10  Leontes: I must be missing something obvious, but what is the matter with 34. Rxe2, before the b pawn gets moving?
Oct-01-10
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  Sastre: If 34.Rxe2 then <34...Qf3+ 35.Kh4 h6 36.R2e3 g5+ 37.Kh5 Qf6> and White can only delay mate.
Oct-01-10  chessenthus: <Leontes: I must be missing something obvious, but what is the matter with 34. Rxe2, before the b pawn gets moving?>

If 34.Rxe2,then Qf3+!35.Kh4 g5+! Now:

a)If he played 36.Kxg5?? Qf6+ Kh5 Qh6 mate.

b)If he played 36.Kh5? Qf6 and white will be forced to sacrifice a rook inorder to escape mate on h6.

Oct-01-10  Gambit All: 9.d5 Gave black's King ♗ too much scope. It was a good attack-counterattack game; but, this early move - opening up the long diagonal - was to me a positional mistake by white.
Aug-17-11  DiscoJew: dance dance revolutionnn.
May-18-12  zev22407: Played in Tel Aviv
For a moment I thought id was from the Anand-Gelfand match!
Mar-29-18
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  Jonathan Sarfati: <Chessmensch:>, yes, from czarny, Polish for Black. In Europe, Jews were forced to take surnames instead of "son of" (ben) like Icelanders today. Sometimes they took on names of their place or occupation, but at other times, sadistic antisemitic officials gave them nasty names. Sometimes the Jews would then wear them with pride, to say, "you can't break me with your silly namecalling."
Mar-29-18
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  Jonathan Sarfati: Then again, the name and its variants are not confined to Polish, but exist in other Slavic languages, as the Wiki page says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chern... So it might just be a Slavic name derived from the word for "black" that was later also used to mean "melanoma".
Apr-18-18
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  whiteshark: Here's a detailed game analysis by Kevin Spraggett: https://kevinspraggettonchess.wordp... <What a crazy game!>
Apr-18-18
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  whiteshark: <4028. Moshe Czerniak (C.N.4020)>

We now note that the Winz v Czerniak game was published on pages 331-332 of The Fireside Book of Chess by I. Chernev and F. Reinfeld (New York, 1949), where it was described as <‘one of the most entertaining games ever played’>.

The finish was given as follows: 41 Re8 (‘A parting joke: if <41...b1(Q)?? 42 Rg8+!! Kxg8 43 Re8+ Kg7 44 Rg8+> and White will draw by stalemate with two queens down.’) 41...Qxe3+! 42 White resigns.

http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...

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