| Oct-13-09 | | LaFreak III: awooooo |
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| Nov-26-09 | | RandomVisitor: Black could have won this with something like 44...Kh7 45.Kd4 Kg6 46.Nh2 Kf5 47.Ke3 e5, but after 50.a6! white has a winning position. |
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Sep-07-11
 | | perfidious: Was Marshall hoping for an earthquake at the end, or feeling piqued after letting this slip away? |
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Sep-08-11
 | | Phony Benoni: He must have been hoping for 63.Qg3. Stalemate in a win in checkers and Banks might have forgotten which game he was playing. |
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| Feb-27-18 | | RookFile: Very strange, this looked like a routine win for black. Marshall screwed up. |
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Feb-27-18
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Wasn't Mr. Banks a famous checkers champion? |
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| Feb-27-18 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Apparently Marshall gave up much of his advantage but was still winning when he played 47..axb5 instead of ..Ke7. He gave up the win with 48..Bd1 when he should have played ..e5. He was definitely lost after 49..Be2; The Computer says that ..Bb3 or ..Ke7 would have drawn. Poor Marshall swindled himself here. |
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Feb-27-18
 | | ajk68: Marshall continually overlooked the value of forming the passed pair of pawns with e5. |
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| Feb-27-18 | | nisharaj31: Why did black not play 33...h5? |
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| Feb-27-18 | | dumbgai: Marshall gets a taste of his own medicine here, losing from a winning position. |
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| Feb-27-18 | | morfishine: Apparently, Marshall forgot to play 33...h5 winning the Knight ***** |
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Feb-27-18
 | | Dionysius1: Nope, I think W could then either force a draw with 34 Qd8 (by perpetual or exchanging Qs when Black interposes on e8), or force ...Kh7 when White would play Qh4. In the latter case Black would be doing well, but he wouldn't win the Knight. |
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| Feb-27-18 | | morfishine: <Dionysius> Yes of course (in my case, this is much easier to see with the board flipped), but at the least, Black is not losing |
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Feb-27-18
 | | AylerKupp: <<Dionysius> I think W could then either force a draw with 34 Qd8 (by perpetual or exchanging Qs when Black interposes on e8), or force ...Kh7 when White would play Qh4. In the latter case Black would be doing well, but he wouldn't win the Knight.> Stockfish 9 couldn't find a perpetual after 33...h5 34.Qd8+ unless Black cooperates by 34...Kg7 35.Qd8+. It evaluates the resulting position at [-1.74], d=38 after 34...Kh7 35.Qh4 Bd5 36.Kh2 Qc2+ 37.Qf2 Qxf2+ 38.Nxf2 (saving the knight but loosing a pawn) 38...Bxa2 39.Kg3 Bb1 40.Nd1 Kg6 41.Ne3 Bd3 42.Kf2 a5 43.Kf3 b5 44.Kg3 Be4 45.Kh4 a4 46.Kg3 Kf6 47.Kh4 g6 48.Kg3 g5 49.fxg5+ Kxg5 50.h4+ Kf6 51.Kf4 Bd3 52.Kg3 e5 53.Nd5+ Ke6 54.Nb4 Bf5 55.Kf2 Kd6 56.Ke2 Be4 57.Ke3 Bd5 58.Nxd5 Kxd5 59.Kf2
click for larger viewPerhaps not an obvious win and, of course, that's a long line so the chances that the game would have followed it exactly are pretty slim. But from this position the FinalGen tablebase generator indicates that Black has a forced win in 6 to 10 moves following each of his 9 legal moves: 59...Kc4 (6), 59...e4 (8), 59...Kc5 (8), 59...b4 (9), 59...a3 (9), 59...Ke4 (10), 59...Kc6 (10), 59...Ke6 (10), and 59...Kd6 (10). So there's a good likelihood that it's curtains for White after 33...h5 34.Qd8+ but of course this is impossible to determine OTB> But did you really mean to suggest 33...h5 34.Qd8+ Qe8?? (an instance of chess blindness? I understand, it happens to me all the time)? Per Stockfish 9 White then has a forced mate in 10 after 35.Qxe8+ Kh7 36.Qxe6 hxg4 37.Qxe4+ Kg8 38.Qe8+ Kh7 39.hxg4 g6 40.Qf7+ Kh8 41.Qxg6 a5 42.f5 b5 43.f6 a4 44.Qg7#
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Feb-27-18
| | Dionysius1: N-no! Rest easy <AylerKupp> I was thinking of 33...h5 34. ♕d8+ ♔f7 35. ♕d7+ ♔f8 36. ♕d8+ and only then (to avoid going to the h file) 36...♕e8 |
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| Feb-27-18 | | daveinsatiable: Can someone explain to me why 50...bxa doesn't save the draw for black? If 51. bxa it's clearly drawn or won for black, and if: 51. b6, surely Ba6 and the bishop can stop the b pawn whilst the king sweeps up the f pawn. What am I missing?? |
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Feb-27-18
| | Dionysius1: 51...♗a6 is impossible - there's a Black pawn there in that variation |
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| Feb-27-18 | | morfishine: <daveinsatiable> After <51.b6> White wins because Black cannot play 51...Ba6: his own pawn is now on <a6> and with <f3> covered, the b-pawn cannot be stopped ***** |
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| Feb-28-18 | | daveinsatiable: Doh! Thanks Dionysius and Morf! Been suffering from this kind of chess blindness a lot lately. |
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| Feb-28-18 | | morfishine: <daveinsatiable> NP, maybe try the trick of flipping the board, sometimes things become much clearer that way ***** |
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| Sep-19-18 | | wordfunph: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Wasn't Mr. Banks a famous checkers champion?> Yes. |
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| Sep-19-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: SF gives 47... axb5 -3.35
47... Ke7 -6.65
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48... Bd1= blunders the advantage away (48... e5 is winning), after 49... Be2 +15 (49... Bb3=), in other words: Black could've created 2 connected passers. |
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