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Veselin Topalov vs Boris Gelfand
Linares (2010), Linares ESP, rd 10, Feb-24
Russian Game: Nimzowitsch Attack (C42)  ·  1-0

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Feb-24-10  SuperPatzer77: <Edwin M> Stop making an offensive remark against anyone including <Shams>

<Edwin M> Just shut up, OK? I don't wanna hear any insulting remark like that.

We've gotta pat Boris Gelfand on the back for having tried his best.

<Shams>, just put <Edwin M> on your ignore list. So do I.

SuperPatzer77

Feb-24-10
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  HeMateMe: <eyal> in the position mentioned above, if white simply plays a quick c5, followed by b4, won't he gain the opposition? it seems that by getting his pawns out front, including a5-a6 and then moving his king on the outside, a breakthrough can be achieved.
Feb-24-10  Eyal: <HeMateMe> If after the exchange of rooks White plays 37.c5 himself, he gives the black king an extra tempo to penetrate his position - 37.c5 Ke6 38.Kc2 Kd5 39.b4 Kc4 and no progress can be made.
Feb-24-10  Edwin M: Hahahaha...
Feb-25-10  notyetagm: White's extra pawn does not mean
much yet, but the black king is cut off
and this causes his serious problems.

-- Baburin

Feb-25-10  notyetagm: Game Collection: Endgame lessons: CUTTING OFF THE KING!

Topalov vs Gelfand, 2010

<White's extra pawn does not mean much yet, <<<but the black king is cut off and this causes his serious problems.>>>>

-- Baburin

Feb-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: <Sneaky: my chessbucks! waaaaah!!!!!>

LOL!

Feb-25-10  notyetagm: http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

<Veselin Topalov rather bravely took on Boris Gelfand's super-solid Petroff Defence. Topalov managed to present Gelfand with some new problems but it seemed for a while that black was doing fine. However Gelfand then chose to give up the exchange in the hope that Topalov couldn't break through. <<< Although the position was rather difficult to break down it seems like Topalov should be much better and he chose to exploit this by returning the exchange in a position where he had the advantages of 4 vs 3 pawns on the queenside and black's king was cut off. >>> With best play this probably would have been drawn but getting there was fiendishly complicated. Gelfand got a long way towards securing the draw but then started to go wrong. 48....a2 49. Rd7+ Ke6 was probably drawn a little easier than his 48...Ke8 which took 15 minutes of thought. His 49...a2 seems to be losing (49... Ke7 50. Rh7+ Ke6 51. c4 Ke5 52. Rd7 Rc3 53. Rd5+ Ke4 seems to be the correct drawing idea). Topalov then brought home the full point and secured his first Linares win (he lost out on tie-break to Kasparov in 2005).>

Feb-25-10  chawdharyudayan: Hello , I am new. Who do you guys feel will win the WC between Anand and Topalov.
Feb-25-10  percyblakeney: <Of course,the position before 32.Rxf6 was won for Topalov,but he should play that final a lot of moves,probably more than 70 and 80 so he decided to play more interesting!>

Ipatov got the last laugh on that one in a way, I suppose...

Feb-25-10  percyblakeney: Sakaev's annotations at Chesspro:

http://chesspro.ru/chessonline/onli...

http://translate.google.com/transla...

Feb-25-10  mysql: What a brute force attack by Topalov. I feel like watching a blitz game.
Feb-25-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: <mysql: What a brute force attack by Topalov. I feel like watching a blitz game.>

It is said that Topalov made his 32nd move quickly, giving back the exchange. He later explained he didn't see a clear way to use the rooks, and thought the pawn up ending his best chance.

It would require a period of tacking and awkwardness, but after 32 Rd1 Be7 33 Rd4 Re6, it doesn't seem too complicated to see that White then could bring the King over and penetrate to h8 with doubled rooks.

So I infer that it is a mark of Topalov's style that he prefers a tangible advantage, as in a blitz game, over a larger advantage where however the moves are not as forced.

Feb-25-10  shreyaslathi: it seems tht Gelfand was taken aback by quickfire attack. he seems to be obssesed to remove all t attacking options frm black so went for hurried exchanges esp queen & next 3-4 move !! had he simply waited for 2 more moves rook bishop exchanges to strengthen his pawns, till king reaches rook, he wuld have been practically 2 moves ahead in tht case topalov wuld hav found very diffulcut.
Feb-25-10  kurtrichards: The Petroff Defense is not super-solid after all.

<Topalov:...I didn't see a clear way to use the rooks...> so he gave up one.

One great master said, "...gave up one of your rooks so that you won't commit the mistake of which rook will move...".

Feb-25-10  k0mi: whatever they say about this game. from a computerless point of view where I stand it's fabulous and one of the best examples of human playing.

thank you, Topalov! good luck against Anand in April I will surely root for you :-)

Feb-25-10  Poisonpawns: Here is Gelfand after the game:
http://tinyurl.com/gelfan
Feb-26-10  whiteshark: A great victory due to White's <doubled pawns majority>.
Feb-26-10  laskereshevsky: Brave handlying in the opening and
great finale technique by the Bulgarian

The TOPA-VISHY match promise to be a very interesting one....

Feb-26-10  Albertan: I have analyzed this game in great detail and posted the analysis to my blog using the program Chessviewer Deluxe. I used the World's strongest chess program, Deep Rybka 3 on my quad core computer in analysis mode for 3 hours to analyze the game, as well as Chessbase 10 and Chessbase Megadatabase 2010. My blog is at http://albertan1956.blogspot.com/ and this is game 42 in the Chessviewer game index.
Feb-27-10  notyetagm: <chawdharyudayan: Hello , I am new. Who do you guys feel will win the WC between Anand and Topalov.>

Anand should win, but do not count Topalov out. I would not be surprised if Topalov won.

I say 60/40 Anand.

Feb-27-10  Reisswolf: <I say 60/40 Anand.> Why would you say that? Topalov has home-field advantage. He is a very strong player, and in recent years his results against Anand have been very good. He is the number one rated player in the world.

What rational reason could one have for not giving the advantage to Topalov?

I love both the players, but I would give a slight advantage to Topalov.

Feb-27-10  notyetagm: <Reisswolf: <I say 60/40 Anand.> Why would you say that? Topalov has home-field advantage. He is a very strong player, and in recent years his results against Anand have been very good. He is the number one rated player in the world. What rational reason could one have for not giving the advantage to Topalov?

I love both the players, but I would give a slight advantage to Topalov.>

Anand is simply unbeatable when he wants to win.

Anand vs Kramnik, 2010

Apr-25-10  BobCrisp: <Gelfand: - The endgame you lost to Topalov - was it drawn? - Well, it wasn't such a simple endgame. It's drawn, of course. But it needs great precision. I think the clever clogs pundits (with a computer at their side) could easily find the draw. But at the board a hundred out of a hundred of them would lose it. - A hundred out of a hundred?
- Yes, a hundred out of a hundred.
...
- The endgame will end up in textbooks. The draw, I think, is there, but it's not as simple as it seems. Playing 48...Ke8 was unfortunate. Maybe 49...Ke7 still saved it... It needs checking.>

http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...

Feb-23-19
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  woldsmandriffield: Topalov's 49 Rh3 asked the right questions. 49..a2 was very tempting but loses although it required fabulously precise play from White to demonstrate the win.

The key drawing line is 49..Ke7 50 Rh7+ (50 Kc7 a2 =) 50..Ke6 51 c4 a2 52 Ra7 Rb2 53 Kc7 Ke5! 54 c6 Kd4

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