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| Sep-27-10 | | Patriot: I wondered what the catch was, as it seemed too easy, which made me think I was missing something much better. 35...Nxe4 36.Rxh5 gxh5 
OR 35...Qxh1+ 36.Kxh1 Nf2+ 37.Kg2 Nxe4
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35...Qxh1+ 36.Kxh1 Nxe4 37.Bxg4 Nf2+ 38.Kg2 Nxg4
I preferred the second line. The first leaves doubled pawns but a strongly posted knight, so it's not that big of a deal. The third line isn't bad but just seemed a little awkward for the knight somehow. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | desiobu: Interestingly Nxe4 didn't even register in my thinking! I went into puzzle mode and immediately saw the decoy + fork tactic. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | Marmot PFL: Seems like half the puzzles lately are of this queen sac knight fork type. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | beginner64: <Once>All good points. There is nothing left for me to say. <Patriot>Ditto. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | fyad reject: people will rush to say that this is too easy but in my opinion this is absolutely the correct level of difficulty for a monday |
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| Sep-27-10 | | kevin86: The solution is easy Qh1  which is not to say that it is not elegant.White must take perforce and the fork will regain the queen at the gain of a piece. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | YouRang: <nuwanda><its just about the definition of puzzle. in my view puzzle means that there is more or less one clear, outstanding, solution.> Yes, well that describes a composed puzzle, but that's not what we get here at cg.com. These are real games, and often in real games, there are multiple ways to win from a given winning position. Some ways may be a bit quicker or more elegant. That just about sums up the type of puzzle we have today. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | patzer2: Fritz 10 finds a surprise trapped piece combination with 22. f4!, which, instead of 22. Nf1 =, appears to turn the tables and give White the win. The winning line is 22. f4! exf4 23. Nf3 Qg4 24. e5 fxg3 25. Rc2 gxh2+ 26.
Kxh2 Nf5 27. exd6 (+1.74 @ 20 depth).
P.S.: Of course with the White King stripped of pawn cover and having to use pieces to defend against the menacing Black pieces (despite being a piece up for a pawn), it is a win even a strong amateur might well have difficulty scoring against such a strong master as Blackburne. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | Shamot: well said, Nuwanda! well said!
For once I got the message. :-) |
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| Sep-27-10 | | rapidcitychess: Decoy and Destroy.
I saw this after spending 5 minutes on a Tuesday puzzle that had the same tactic. Easy. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | dumbgai: Silly me, I went for just 35...Nxe4 which is basically the same but with doubled pawns. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | DarthStapler: Got it easily, although I was a little distracted by the fact that the queen was already under attack. |
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Sep-27-10
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i do not understand this puzzle.
35...Nxe4 wins, 35...Qxh1+ 36.Kxh1 Nxe4 wins and 35...Qxh1+ 36.Kxh1 Nf2+ 37.Kg2 either Nxe4 wins black could hardly go wrong...>
For someone who says he does not understand ... I'd say he pretty much nailed it! |
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Sep-27-10
| | LIFE Master AJ: My choice was 35...QxR/h1+; 36.KxQ/h1, NxQ/e4; 37.BxN/g4, Nf2+; 38.Kg2, NxB/g4; 39.Kf3, h5; 40.Re1, Kf7; for the following reasons: a.) Material is traded down. In a won position, Capa stated that you always pare down as much material as possible. (And I agree with this ... 99.9999% of the time.) b.) Black's Knight on g4 menaces the WK, and possibly the Rook, and is also virtually unassailable on g4. c.) I have the e-file and the half-open a-file for my Black Rook. (I had plans of getting my Rook to the a-file, tying down White's army completely.) d.) I have two pawn islands to White's three.
e.) Now that the light-squared Bishop has been traded off, my (Black) King is free to wander up to f5 and join the game. Oh yes ... and by the way ... I am also a piece up. |
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Sep-27-10
| | LIFE Master AJ: I do remember reading a story how the young Capa was giving a simul in Cuba. He was playing a wily veteran, and the old guy had given a good fight. (In an endgame, he was down a piece, but had two dangerous passed Pawns.) Capa blithely sacked the piece back! (A turn which surprised almost everyone.) The result was a K+P endgame that was equal from a material standpoint, but basically just a matter of calculation, and an elementary win for Capa ... I don't know if the engines would approve. I do know that - over the years - I have blown quite a few won games by too much complexity, when I could have nearly always chosen the Capa method and probably won at least 95% of the time ... ... ... |
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Sep-27-10
| | LIFE Master AJ: <Sep-27-10 DarthStapler: Got it easily, although I was a little distracted by the fact that the queen was already under attack.> Your handle is ... TOO MUCH!!!
(I approve. But it will be hard to see a post from you for a while without at least a small chuckle escaping from my mouth ...) |
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Sep-27-10
| | LIFE Master AJ: <<<<<<<<Sep-27-10> YouRang:> <nuwanda>> <its just about the definition of puzzle. in my view puzzle means that there is more or less one clear, outstanding, solution.>>
Yes, well that describes a composed puzzle, but that's not what we get here at cg.com.> These are real games, and often in real games, there are multiple ways to win from a given winning position. Some ways may be a bit quicker or more elegant.> That just about sums up the type of puzzle we have today.> >>Nothing to add, other than ... GOOD JOB!!! <YouRang> |
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| Sep-27-10 | | wals: Hooray for the Queen sac.
Analysis by Rybka 4 x 64
White: depth 17: time 4 min:
(-1.21):26.Qd4.
Best,
1.  (0.45): 26.Nc6 Bxf1 27.Rxf1 fxg3 28.Rc2 gxh2+ 29.Kh1 Qf4 30.Ne7+ Kf7 31.d6[] Qxd6 32.Rd2 Qc5 33.Nd5 Kg8 34.Rxh2 c6 35.Nc7 Nf7 36.Nxa8 Rxa8 37.Qd7 Nc3 38.f4 Nxb1 39.Rxb1 Qxc4 40.Qe7 Qd3 2. (0.32): 26.Nd3 Bxf1 27.Rxf1 fxg3[] 28.Qe1 gxh2+ 29.Kxh2 Nc5 30.Qg3 Qd2+ 31.Qg2 Nxe4 32.fxe4 Ng4+ 33.Kh3 Qxg2+ 34.Kxg2[] Ne3+ 35.Kg1 Rxf1+ 36.Rxf1[] Nxf1 37.Kxf1 Ra4 38.c5 bxc5 39.Nxc5 Rc4 40.Nb3 Kf7 41.Ke2 Black: depth 17: 5 min:
(=0.00):26...Bxf1.
Best,
1.  (-1.21): 26...Rae8 27.Ng4 Bxg4 28.fxg4 Nxg4 29.d6 cxd6 30.Qd5+ Qxd5[] 31.cxd5 f3 32.Red1 Rc8 33.h3 Ne5[] 34.Rxc8 Rxc8 35.Rd4 Rc1 36.Rxa4 Rxb1 37.Ra7 b5 38.Ra6 Re1 39.Rxd6 Rxe4 40.Rd8+ Kg7 41.Rb8 Re2 2. (-1.15): 26...fxg3 27.hxg3 Bxf1 28.Kh2 Qh5+ 29.Kg1 Bh3 30.f4 Nc5 31.Rc3 Bc8 32.Nf3 Bd7 33.Qd2 Ng4 White: depth 16: 4 min:
(-1.75):27.Kxf1.
Best,
1. = (0.00): 27.Rxf1 fxg3 28.d6 cxd6 29.Qd5+ Kg7 30.Qxd6 Rfd8 31.Qc7+ Kg8 32.f4 gxh2+ 33.Kh1[] Qf6 34.Qc6 Qxc6 35.Nxc6 Rd2 36.Rc2 Rxc2 37.Bxc2 Nc5 38.Bb1 Ng4 39.Ne7+ Kf7 40.Nd5 Ra7[] 41.e5 Ke6[] 42.Re1 Black: depth 18: 3 min:
(-0.62):28...Rae8.
Best,
1. (-2.04): 28...Qxg3 29.Ke2 Rae8[] 30.Nd3 Rxf3[] 31.Qg1 Rxe4+ Black: depth 17: 4 min:
(=0.00):30...Qh5.
Best,
1.  (-0.70): 30...Ree8 31.f4 Qg4 32.Rce1 Nc5 33.Qd2 Qd7 34.Rh1 Qg7 35.e5 Nf5 36.Bc2 Ra8 37.g4 Ne7 38.d6 Rad8 39.Rhf1 Qf7 2. (-0.53): 30...Re7 31.f4 Qg4 32.Bc2 Nc5 33.Rce1 Ree8 34.a4 Ra8 35.Qa1 Qd7 36.Rh1 Ng4 37.e5 Qg7 38.Qd4 Ra7 39.Bd1 h5 40.Bxg4 hxg4 41.Ra1 White: depth 19: 4 min:
(-3.12):33.Bd1.
Best
1. (-0.48): 33.Rf3 g5 34.Rh1 Qg6[] 35.Bb1[] Nxe4 36.d6 Qxd6 37.Qxd6 Nxd6 38.Rxh6[] Re2+ 39.Rf2 Rxf2+ 40.Kxf2 gxf4 41.Bd3 fxg3+ 42.Kxg3 Rf7 43.Rh5 c5 44.a4 Kf8 45.a5 bxa5 46.Rxc5 Nb7 47.Rc6 Ke7 48.Bc2 2. (-0.57): 33.Rce1 g5 34.Rh1 Qg6[] 35.f5[] Qg7[] 36.Qxg7+ Kxg7[] 37.f6+ Rxf6[] 38.e5[] Rf7 39.e6 Rf6 40.Rh5 g4 41.Rg5+ Kh8 42.Rh5 Ref8 43.Re2 Ra8 44.Rg5 Ng8 45.Rxg4 Ne7 46.Bb1 Ng6 47.Rg5 Kg7 48.Rh5 and White resigned move 37,
with a Bishop and pawn for 2 Knights. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | CarlG: What makes the whole sequence better is 34...Rxe4. This whole sequence of pseudo sac combinations really gained a mere pawn. Hats off to Blackburne. |
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| Sep-27-10 | | wals: White: Available moves for move 22.
Nf1. =0.22.
Analysis by Rybka 4 x64: depth: 20 time 10 min:
1. (0.37): 22.Bc3 f6 23.Nf1 Nf7 24.Ne3 Qh5 25.g4 Qh4 26.Qe2 h5 27.Qf2 Qxf2+ 28.Kxf2[] hxg4 29.Nxg4 Kg7 30.Kg3 Rh8 31.Bd2 Rh5 2. (0.36): 22.Qe2 f6 23.Bc3 Bd7 24.Kg2 Qh5 25.h4 Na4 26.Red1 Nxc3 27.Rxc3 g5 28.Rh1 g4 29.fxg4 Bxg4 30.Qd3 Rf7 31.Re1 Bd7 32.Qf3 Ng4 33.a3 3. = (0.22): 22.Nf1 Na4 23.Ba1 f6 24.Ne3 Nf7 25.Qd2 Qh5 26.Qe2 Nd8 27.Nxd8 Rfxd8 28.Bc2 Nc5 29.Bd1 Ra3 30.Bc3 Rda8 31.Rc2 Qh6 32.Qd2 Na4 33.Re2 4. = (0.21): 22.Kh1 f6 23.Bc3 Nf7 24.Nf1 Qh5 25.Ne3 Bd7 26.Rf1 Na4 27.Ba1 Bc5 28.Qd2 Ng5 29.Qe2 Bxc6 30.dxc6 Bxe3 31.Qxe3 5. = (0.21): 22.Nb3 Qh5 23.Rc3 f6 24.Bc1 Bd7 25.Rf1 Nf7 26.Be3 Bxc6 27.dxc6 Rfd8 28.Qe2 Ng5 29.Nxc5 Bxc5 30.Bxc5 bxc5 31.Rd3 Rd4 32.Rb3 Ne6 33.Bd3 Rd6 34.Qb2 22.f4. =0.00.
1. = (0.00): 22...exf4 23.Nf3 Qg4 24.e5 fxg3 25.Rc2 Rfe8 26.exd6[] Rxe1+ 27.Qxe1 gxh2+ 28.Kxh2 Qxf3 29.Re2 Ng4+ 30.Kg1 f6[] 31.dxc7 Ne3[] 32.Ne7+ Kf8 33.Qd2 Qg3+ 34.Kh1 Qf3+ 35.Kg1 Qg3+ 36.Kh1 Qf3+ 37.Kg1 Qg3+ |
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| Sep-27-10 | | turbo231: <LIFE Master AJ:I do remember reading a story how the young Capa was giving a simul in Cuba. He was playing a wily veteran, and the old guy had given a good fight. (In an endgame, he was down a piece, but had two dangerous passed Pawns.) Capa blithely sacked the piece back! (A turn which surprised almost everyone.) The result was a K+P endgame that was equal from a material standpoint, but basically just a matter of calculation, and an elementary win for Capa ...> Please excuse my ignorance but "Capa blithely sacked the piece back!" What piece? |
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| Sep-27-10 | | smalldreams: 35. ... Qxh1+
36. Kxh1□ Nf2+
37. K(any) Nxe4
only easy because I knew there was a queen sac in the works... supposedly Tal always looked for queen sacs first. |
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| Sep-28-10 | | kurtrichards: Typical of Mondays puzzle...very easy...
35. ... Qxh1+ winning. |
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| Jul-13-13 | | optimal play: <<<The English Chess Champion in Melbourne.> “The Leader”, of last Saturday announced that Mr. Blackburne already feels benefited by the Australian climate, and that he expected in a few days to be well enough to undergo the strain of meeting eight strong players simultaneously blindfold. The first exhibition was fixed for this (Thursday) evening, January 5, play to begin at 7 o'clock. His Honor Mr. Justice Williams is to preside, and it was proposed to limit the number of tickets to 250 or 300 at 5s. each, the whole of the proceeds, less expenses, to be handed to Mr. Blackburne. Duplicate boards were to be used to enable the spectators to follow the play. Mr. Blackburne attended the last two meetings of the Melbourne Chess Club, where he played a few games, the most important being one with the Victorian champion, Mr. A. Burns. It ran up to the fortieth [*] move when Mr. Blackburne won. Mr. Burns shaped well, and, as pointed out afterwards by Mr. Blackburne, he had at one point a forced win. <31.Rf2 Ree8 32.Rh1 Qg5 33.f4 then 34.Rxh6> [*] The score ends <37. K Kt takes Q ; And Black wins in a few more moves.> - South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA) issue Thursday 8 January 1885> |
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| Jul-13-13 | | optimal play: <<<<MR. BLACKBURNE IN MELBOURNE.> A game played by the English champion against Mr. A. Burns, the well-known Victorian don and chess editor of the Leader, from which the score with notes (abbreviated) are taken.> (a) 15...g6
Intending Kt to R 4 next move.
(b) 16.g3
Threatening P to K B 4.
(c) 16...♗c8
Attacking at once the weak point in White's game.
(d) 17.♘b5
If White moved K to Kt 2, the reply would of course have been Q to Q 2. (e) 19...♘h6
Black thought here of continuing with Kt to R 5, but abandoned it after consideration ; the move would have given a good attack, but hardly sufficient to win by. (f) 24.♗xe5
White should simply have taken pawn with pawn, remaining with the better game, e.g., 24. P takes P ; P takes P (best) ; 25. B takes P ; B takes B ; 26. R takes B, with a fine game. <24.exf5 gxf5 25.Bxe5 Bxe5 26.Rxe5> (g) 26.♕d4
The Kt should rather have been moved to Q3.
(h) 30...♕h5
An error which should have lost the game ; the rook should have been retired to Q sq. (i) 31.f4
White here misses his way, thinking to win by attacking the Kt, and then the Q with B, but overlooking that he left the K P unsupported ; Mr. Blackburne pointed out the following method of winning for White : —
31. R to B 2 ; R to K sq. (best) ; 32. R to R sq. ; Q to Kt 4 ; 33. P to B 4 ; Q moves ; 34. R takes Kt, winning. <31.Rf2 Ree8 32.Rh1 Qg5 33.f4 then 34.Rxh6> (j) 32.♗c2
R to B 2 would still have saved the game 32. R to B 2 ; Q to Kt 5 ; 33. R to R sq. ; Kt to B 2 ; 34. R to R 4 ; Q to B sq. ; 35. P to K 5 ; Kt to B 4 ; 36. K to Kt sq. <32.Rf2 Qg4 33.Rh1 Nf7 34.Rh4 Qc8 35.e5 Nc5 36.Kg1> - South Australian Weekly Chronicle (Adelaide, SA) issue Saturday 10 January 1885> |
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