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Faraz Ghaledar vs J Arun
World Junior Championship (2011), Chennai IND, rd 7, Aug-09
Formation: Queen Pawn Game: London System (D02)  ·  0-1


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Aug-07-12  Djoker: Qxf3 and its over.
Aug-07-12  david p: Just checked. Infohunter was right
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  Morten: The annoying white squared bishop gets the last word!
Aug-07-12  Abdel Irada: <Death on the long diagonal>

With 43. ...♕xf3!, Black obliterates White's gossamer defenses.

This pseudo-sacrifice cannot be accepted: 44. gxf3?, ♖xh3; 45. ♕h2, ♗xf3#.

Declining it isn't much better: 44. ♕xf3, ♗xf3 with mate in five. One line: 45. ♗h7, ♖xh7; 46. ♗c5, ♖xh3; 47. ♔g1, ♖xg2; 48. ♔f1, ♖h1; 49. ♗g1, ♖hxg1#.

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  poszvald: 43, ..Qxf3
44, Qxf3 Bxf3 (44, gxf3 Rxh3 45, Qh2 Bxf3#)
45, gxf3 Rxh3#

Any other move by white and rooks+bishop can take basicly the king shelter.

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  whiteshark: <43...Qxf3!>, and that's it.

<Storming the barricades> comes to mind.

Aug-07-12  El Trueno: I saw 43...Rxh3+ and that is also good solution cause

44.gxh3 Qxf3+ 45.Qxf3 Bxf3+ 46.Kh2 Rg2+ 47.Kh1 Rxc2+ and black has a big material advantage


44.Rxh3 Rxg2 and mate in some moves

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  Once: <El Trueno> 43...Rxh3? 44. Rxh3 Rxg2?? 45. Rh8+ Kd7 46. Qxf7#

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I'm afraid that 43...Rxh3 doesn't work. It is mate in some moves, but unfortunately only for white!

The side variation here is 44...Qxg2+ 45. Qxg2 Rxg2

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This ought to be a draw. White has to spend a move to hide his LSB from the discovered check, which means that black can get material or a perpetual.

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  morfishine: Black is up an exchange and both his rooks are aimed straight at the White K-side. He would love to play Rxh3+, but only after the <g2> support is neutralized: <43...Qxf3> leaves white without a saving continuation:

(1) <44.Qxf3 Bxf3> and here if <45.gxf3> then <45...Rxh3#> (45.Kg1 loses to 45...Rxg2+)

(2) <44.gxf3 Rxh3+ 45.Qh2 Bxf3#>

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  gofer: <43 ... Qxf3>

44 gxf3 Rxh3+ 45 Qh2 Bxf3#

<44 Qxf3 Bxf3>

White's position is hopeless...

Pawn moves don't work...
45 gxf3 Rxh3#
45 any other pawn move Rxh3+ 46 Kg1 Rxg2+ 47 Kf1 Rh1#

King moves don't work...
45 Kh2 Rxg2+ 46 Kh1 Rxh3#
45 Kg1 Rxg2+ 46 Kf1 Rxh3 47 Bc5 Rh1+ 48 Bg1 Rxg1#

Bishop moves don't work...
45 Any bishop move Rxh3+ 46 Kg1 Rxg2+ 47 Kf1 Rh#

Aug-07-12  zb2cr: 43. ... Qxf3 does it. It's easy to see that capturing the Queen with the Pawn doesn't work. A little more difficult is 44. Qxf3, Bxf3; 45. Kg1, Rxh3!; 46. Kf1, Rxg2 and mate next move.
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  SuperPatzer77: <zb2cr: 43. ... ♕xf3 does it. It's easy to see that capturing the Queen with the Pawn doesn't work. A little more difficult is 44. ♕xf3, ♗xf3; 45. ♔g1, ♖xh3!; 46. ♔f1, ♖xg2 and mate next >

<zb2cr> 45. ♔g1 ♖xg2+ (much better than 45...♖xh3), 46. ♔f1 ♖xh3 and mates next move. White has no defense against 47...♖h1#.

<zb2cr> Your line is 45. ♔g1 ♖xh3, 46. ♔f2 - White King can excape from the checkmate


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  James D Flynn: White has B and P for a R but Black has strong pressure on the long diagonal bearing down on Whites K and the 2 Black rooks also on the Kside make the position ripe for combinations. Candidates Qxf3, Rxh3, Rxg2.
43Qxf3 44,Qxf3(if gxf3 Rxh3+ 45.Qh2 Bxf3#) Bxf3 46.Kg1(if gxf3 Rxh3#)Rxg2+ 47.Kf1 Rxh3 48,Bc5 bxc5 and there is no answer to Rh1# next. 43Rxh3+ 44.Rxh3 Qxg2+(if Rxg2 45.Rh8+ Kd7 46.Qxf7#)45.Qxg2 Rxg2 46.Bd3(threat Bb5+ and Rh8# therefore Black must take the perpetual byRg5+ 47.Rg2+ Kh2). 43Rxg2 44.Kxg2 Qxf3+ 45.Qxf3 Bxf3+ 46.Kxf3 Rxh3+ 47,Ke2 Rxc3 48Kd2 with a difficult ending in which Blacks R and 2 Pawn s look better than Whites 2 bishops.
Aug-07-12  David2009: F Ghaledar vs J Arun, 2011 Black 43...?

43...Qxf3 wins a Rook for starters: 44.Qxf3 Bxf3 and if 45.gxf3 Rxh3#. Or 44.gxf3 Rxh3+ 45.Qh2 Bxf3#. Black has to avoid 43...Rxh3+?? 44.Rxh3 Rxg2 45.Rh8+ Kd7 46.Qxf7#. Time to
Yes. Amusing position posted by <Once>:

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(F Ghaledar vs J Arun 2011 variation 46?) White to play and draw. Link to Crafty End Game Trainer:

The gracious robot will accept a draw by repetition after the right first move. Prudence seems to be the better part of valour here, because attempts to win starting 46.Rh8+ seem to lose. Enjoy exploring the possibilities!

Aug-07-12  YetAnotherAmateur: 43. ... Qxf3 is clear enough:
A) 44. gxf3 Rxh3+ 45. Qh2 Bxf3#

B) 44. Qxf3 Bxf3
 B1) 45. gxf3 Rxh3#
 B2) 45. Kg1 Rxg2+
  B2a) 46. Kf1 Rxh3 followed by Rh1#
  B2b) 46. Kh1 Rg3+ 47. Kh2 Rxh3#
 B3) 45. Kh2 Rxg2+ 46. Kh1 Rxh3#

That's the easy part. The harder part is that if white refuses the sac, he's still lost:

C) 44. Qg3 Rxh3+
 C1) 45. Qxh3 Qxh3+ 46. Kg1 Qxg2#
 C2) 45. Qh2 Qxg2#
 C3) 45. Kg1 Rgxg3 followed by Rxg2# (or Qxg2#, but I think the rook is more stylish)

D) 45. Qg1 Rxh3+ 46. Qh2 Qxg2#

E) Anything else Rxh3+ 45. Kg1 Rxg2+
 E1) Qxg2 Qxg2#
 E2) Kf1 Rh1#

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  kevin86: The correct move is to chop the rook with the queen. If white tries to exchange queen,his game is a shambles and taking with the pawn leads to a mate in two.Therefore: a win is assured.
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  FSR: After 43...Qxf3!, London Bridge is falling down:

44.gxf3 Rxh3+ 45.Qh2 Bxf3#;

44.Qxf3 Bxf3 45.gxf3 Rxh3#;

44.Qg1 Qxh3+ (44...Rxh3+, 44...Rxg2 and damn near anything else also wins).

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  chrisowen: Scouting for entrance points affective ok is Qxf3 gxf3 (44.Qxf3 Bxf3 45.gxf3 Rxh3#) Rxh3+ king looks the head-way it is queen interject new clear path at h2 away it rook in h3 and bishop chubbing it lock in f3# new clear in chasm auger f3 many it times in good game clubbing barrell Qc6 plus bb7.
Aug-07-12  bachbeet: Got it. Black's Q can be taken but at a high cost.
Aug-07-12  capanegra: Very nicely game played by Black! After 11 Qb6 derived into a French style position with the absence of the support d4 White Pawn, which made possible the d Pawn intrusion.
Aug-07-12  zb2cr: Hi <SuperPatzer77>,

Thanks for pointing out the quicker win. However, I think you are wrong in your assertion that my line lets White slip out with 46. Kf2. I admit that I made it harder than it had to be, but 46. ... Rxg2+; 47. Ke3 (the Rook on h3 protects the Bishop), Bd5+. Now two lines:

a. 48. Kf4, g5#.

b. 48. Kd4, Rg4+; 49. Be4, Rxe4#.

It's possible I have missed something here, since my workplace doesn't allow anything but the text viewer.

Again, thank you for pointing out the quicker win with 45. ... Rxg2+.

Aug-07-12  Conrad93: Oops! I thought white had to move for the puzzle.
Aug-07-12  lzromeu: Very nice game by black, style french defence <capanegra>. Not casteling makes the diference at the mate
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  Patriot: Black is up the exchange for a pawn.

43...Qxf3 should win since 44.Qxf3 Bxf3 and white cannot recapture due to 45.gxf3 Rxh3#. Or 44.gxf3 Rxh3+ 45.Qh2 Bxf3#.

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  desiobu: sink!
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