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| Jun-30-13 | | morfishine: <OhioChessFan> On your comment: <BTW, I missed this one. My visualization skills are pitiful...> I wouldn't bemoan this one too much. This one is heavily weighted to knowing or being familiar with the opening [ie: Dragon] |
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| Jun-30-13 | | patfoley: <cyclon> My newer analysis of yesterday's Ne6 is that White can get a draw, but I have not nailed down an advantage. It looks like Alekhine's Nd5 was better. The problem is that Ne6 winds up taking the R at D8 and then not being able to escape ... or Black's g3 B gets to come back to e5 and slow the attack. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | sethoflagos: 17...Ng3! exposes the weakness of 14.Nde2? Much better for white is 14.Nd5 If today's was a tad easy, try this similar position I ran into on Friday 
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Can white save the game?
Comments/solutions welcome on my profile page |
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| Jun-30-13 | | cyclon: <patfoley:> Thank you for your estimation. |
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Jun-30-13
 | | playground player: Philip Morris gets smoked! |
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Jun-30-13
 | | numbersguy70: Nice to see a Chris Ward puzzle. I enjoyed his book, The Controversial Samisch King's Indian, so much that I push the Samisch out as white as often as I'm allowed. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | BOSTER: This is the Karpov's opinion about Dragon in Sicilian.
"In my career I have met Dragon many times, and only once black could draw".
In Dragon the thematic sacr. Rc8xc3 usually gives a countergame. So, in game Karpov vs Korchnoi 1974 Karpov played Nde2 to support the knight on c3, following the Nimzo's advice that strategical important squares should be overprotected. |
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Jun-30-13
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <cyclon> <Pardon me, but if you and no one else doesn't mind, I would like to know what is the possible outcome regarding yesterdays puzzle in the case White plays 20. Ne6 instead of immediate 20. Nd5.> I responded yesterday. Just go back to that game page. Jim
Alekhine vs Saemisch, 1923 |
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Jun-30-13
 | | FSR: I already submitted "Smoked" for J Gallagher vs P Morris, 1990, though this would be a better game to attach that to. Someone has already submitted "Smoked" for this game. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | Jambow: Ok first five star and in less than a minute? Deflect the last defender was rather about a Wednesday imho. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | hedgeh0g: Despite losing, White could console himself with the fact that he still had his health. On second thought... |
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| Jun-30-13 | | BOSTER: The answer to <cyclon> (yesterday <POTD>).
Why should play 20.Nd5 not Ne6?
(after 18. fxe6 Bxg3 19.exf7+ Kh8).
I guess it is clear that both knights should move from diagonal a1-h8 to open bishop b2.
I understand that knight c3 has to move only to d5, but knight from d4 has at least couple moves e6 or c6 (and even f5). First reason to play 20.Nd5.
You should first play the move which less commits oneself!
Second reason to play 20.Nd5. After this move the mobility of the black queen is sharply restricted.
And if black tried to <keep> his queen, the queen has to go to a7, or b8, where 21.Nc6 creates the fork, and most important if queen returns to b7 white will take the rook d8 with double threat, attacking the queen b7 and f7-f8=Q. But if the queen moved 20...Qb7 the knight from d4 will move to e6 with double threat Nxd8, attacking the queen, and Bxg7#. So, you can see the knight from d4 can go to c6 or e6. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | erniecohen: Everybody, please discuss yesterday's POTD on the page dedicated to the game you are discussing. That way, the information can be found by other people following the game, and it doesn't pollute the discussion of this one for all time. |
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| Jun-30-13 | | PinnedPiece: I thought I had this, but was surprised to see the move 19...Rac8. Does the attack fail without that move?
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| Jun-30-13 | | sethoflagos: <PinnedPiece:> In order to threaten mate with Qa1 (after the sacs on b3), you need a control on c2 otherwise the king can use that square to escape. |
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| Jul-01-13 | | waustad: I'm sure somebody mentioned it, but for those old enough, "Call For Phillip Morris" would have made a good GOTD pun. |
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| Jul-01-13 | | FlashinthePan: <FSR: I already submitted "Smoked" for J Gallagher vs P Morris, 1990, though this would be a better game to attach that to. Someone has already submitted "Smoked" for this game.> How about "Philip Morris put out" then? |
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| Jul-01-13 | | AnotherNN: Pun should be "Smoking Philip Morris". |
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| Jul-01-13 | | JoergWalter: Smoking harms your chess ability |
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| Jul-01-13 | | Abdel Irada: <PinnedPiece: I thought I had this, but was surprised to see the move 19...Rac8. Does the attack fail without that move?>
I've been over the line a few times and it's not clear to me that the move is necessary. < 19. ...Bxb3!?
20. cxb3, Rxb3†
21. axb3, Qa1†
22. Kc2, Qa2†! >
This is the most efficient. On (a) 22. ...Rc8† 23. Bc5!, White has cleared an escape square and survives for a while. The queen check eliminates this option. < 23. Kd3 ... >
Or (b) 23. Kc1, Rc8† with mate in two.
< 23. ...Qa6†
24. Kc2, Rc8†
25. Bc5, Rxc5†
26. Qc3, Qa2† 0-1>
Black mates next move.
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| Jul-05-13 | | 14DogKnight: <Infohunter: <Kasputin: I wonder if Philip Morris lost because he went out for too many smoke breaks?>
They didn't have to go out for smoke breaks in those days.> You mentioned you played Perry Youngworth in a simul at the old Riverside Chess Club. I played in that simul too. We may know each other. I was past president of the club. |
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| Feb-06-22 | | Brenin: At the time of this game, both players were 15 years old. Chris Ward went on to be British Champion, and to write several well-regarded chess books, including one on the Dragon. |
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Feb-06-22
 | | offramp: <playground player: Philip Morris gets smoked!> That's a good one! "In the first six months of 1997, five sales representatives at Philip Morris Poland were killed and another critically injured in three separate accidents involving company cars..." Funny, but funny peculiar rather than funny ha ha. |
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Feb-06-22
 | | perfidious: Probably clouds of smoke inside the vehicles as they were driven about the country. Forgive my gallows humour. |
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Feb-06-22
 | | Teyss: Holy smoke, what a combination. 17...Black to play was a Sunday puzzle in 2013. 17.g4? was asking for it, pushing the N were it wants to go for a puzzle. Instead 17.Bd4 would have challenged the g7 B on the diagonal. If now 17...Ng3?! 18.Bxg7! and now: (a) 18...Nxh1? 19.Rxh1 with the threat Qh6 so Black has to save the K by giving up the Q with 19...Rxc3 removing the a2 defender 20.Qh6! Qxa2+ 21.Kc1 Qa1+ 22.Kd2 Qxh1 23.Qxh1 Rc7 24.Bc3. 
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(b) 18...Kxg7?? 19.Qh6+ Kf6 (forced) 20.Nxg3 with a strong attack on the K. 
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(c) 18...Rxc3 19.Nxc3 Nxh1 20.Bh6! (better than Rxh1 unprotecting the Q since the N is pinned) Ng3 with a very good position for White (SF 2.9 at 37 ply). 
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