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Magnus Carlsen vs Hikaru Nakamura
Tata Steel (2013)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Old Sicilian. Open (B32)  ·  1-0
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Jan-29-13
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  Rolfo: < and want the comments of the COWARD nakamura>

On the contrary Nakamura was brave to try to win even if he failed..

He could have dug in playing for a draw but he didn't

Jan-29-13  Everett: Funny how many condemn the opening when the game was interesting and certainly not lost by move 19 or so. Even 21..Bf6 leaves Black with a difficult but playable position.

When Carlsen says "h3 is weak" I'm sure he sees variations where he can win it and keep his king safe, but to some extent that h3 pawn is blocking lines to his own king. As an enterprising, sacrificial player, I wouldn't be so concerned about that pawn. I would be much more concerned about how to get my Na5 and Ra8 into the game. But by move 21, it is vital, in my eyes, to stop f6, as the pawns on f5 and d5 keep Be4 poorly placed.

Jan-30-13
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  lost in space: Yeah, seems that Carlsen was right with his comment on 19...f5.

After 20. Bd3 shredder can not find a good move for black.

20...Be7, 20...Qd7 and also 20...e4 show evaluations >1 if you let the comp run long enough. I will not got into detail, Carsen himself said already the important things in his commentary direct after the game about white's plan after 20...e4

Will now have a look to 24. Nc4 (most probably already to late to change the result of the game)

Feb-02-13
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  Ulhumbrus: 6...h5 looks like the main mistake, making his king side unsafe for his king after he has already made the queen side unsafe.

Now suppose that Nakamura plays the developing moves which he actually plays but without the move ...h5.

Then we may get a typical Sicilian Sveshnikov type game with the difference that White has played g3 - and this may work to Black's advantage eg 6...a6 7 Nb5-c3 Nge7 8 Nd5 Nxd5 9 exd5 f5

Feb-05-13  fgh: <latvalatvian: Carlsen seems to have a basic understanding of chess principles.>

Unlike Nakamura, who forgot to castle and develop his pieces. *Chuckle*

Feb-05-13
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  Ulhumbrus: If 6...h5 looks like the first error, 8...b5 looks like the losing strategic mistake, making his queen side unsafe for his king after he has already made the king side unsafe.

Now suppose that Nakamura plays the developing moves which he actually plays but without the move ...h5.

Then we may get a typical Sicilian Sveshnikov type game with the difference that White has played g3 - and this may work to Black's advantage eg 6...a6 7 Nb5-c3 Nge7 8 Nd5 Nxd5 9 exd5 f5

Feb-05-13
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  keypusher: <Ulhumbrus> Yeah, what kind of @#$%* idiot would play ...b5 and ...h5 in a Sicilian.

R Byrne vs Fischer, 1967

Could you please stop posting these inane comments?

Feb-05-13  FadeThePublic: WOW...he made H-Bomb look like a sparkler
Feb-05-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: This game will be my "Game of The Month" for January, 2013.
Feb-06-13
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  RookFile: I guess the difference between the two games is that Byrne had already castled. That made Fischer's ....h5 more formidable.
Feb-06-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: Here 6...h5!? was a little risky. If it were not, then it would be more widely used.
Feb-07-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/thegotmman/...

My web page for this game, the video is not posted yet, but it is about 90% complete.

Feb-08-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN_P...

My YT video, to compliment my web page.

Feb-08-13
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  Bureaucrat: Nice video! I enjoyed it very much.
Feb-08-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks!

Did you look at the web page at all?

Feb-09-13
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  Bobby Fiske: <Did you look at the web page at all?> Yes. Nice analysis. You really put in a lot of work into these features, Master AJ!

I share your assumption about g3. That Magnus chose this "quiet" line on purpose. -Dragging his opponent into OTB territory as early as possible.

Feb-09-13
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  Bureaucrat: I looked at the web page. I agree with Bobby. Good analysis of this nice game!
Feb-10-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: << <Bobby> I share your assumption about g3. That Magnus chose this "quiet" line on purpose. -Dragging his opponent into OTB territory as early as possible. <<<>>> >>

I agree as well. I watched the on-line (live) feed, Magnus did not seem to have any real problems ... he never took much time on any of his moves. While Nakamura seemed to use more and more time as his position slowly got worse.

Feb-10-13
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  LIFE Master AJ: Thanks for the nice words, btw.
Feb-11-13
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  OhioChessFan: <Everett: So, my basic sentiment to your posts on Carlsen - Lasker were well-captured (!) by <keypusher>. >

sentiment.......was. I'd ask for my 40 grand back.

Feb-11-13
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  OhioChessFan: <Everett: Middle and endgame, however, seems quite positional>

________ and __________ seem.

Feb-12-13  Everett: C'mon man, really so fixated? Only two grammatical errors after a flurry of quickly typed first-draft kibitzes! That's pretty good for me.

Might even find fragments and run-ons. Keep looking!

Feb-12-13
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  perfidious: < keypusher: <Ulhumbrus> Yeah, what kind of @#$%* idiot would play ...b5 and ...h5 in a Sicilian.

Could you please stop posting these inane comments?>

If only-then again, we're dealing with someone who considers the Keres Attack a terrible idea.

Maybe if <Ulhumbrus> develops some semblance of open-mindedness, there's a chance. Failing that, none whatever.

Feb-25-13  TITUS 1 VS 4: i think carlsen works much more than his oponents,thus he gets what he deserves! gud game!
Mar-14-13
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  RookFile: Why waste time? Maybe 1.... h5 is the most flexible option.
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