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Kenneth S Rogoff vs Arthur Howard Williams
"Trade Restrictions" (game of the day Feb-05-2013)
World Junior Championship, B Final (1969), Stockholm SWE, rd 10, Aug-??
Benoni Defense: King's Indian System (A56)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Feb-05-13
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  perfidious: <waustad> This game is an exception, but I submitted a number of games months ago, and am still waiting for them to appear.
Feb-05-13
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  AylerKupp: (continued unfortunately)

So, why did Rogoff break the non-capture streak at move 94? Did he finally get really bored or did he all of a sudden realize that he had something more important to do? Perhaps he just got hungry and wanted to go get something to eat. But in any of these cases he could have just made a non-pawn, non-capture move and claim a draw by repetition, ending the game almost immediately instead of playing on for another 13 moves. So these explanations don't seem to make much sense.

Therefore my theory is that since Rogoff was either 15 or 16 at the time this game was played, puberty finally set in. Chess has been known to delay puberty among chess-playing males (studies about chess-playing females are inconclusive) and according to his bio Rogoff was 6 years old when he learned to play the game and 13 when he took up the game in earnest. A long time sublimating normal hormonal urges, and these effects are cumulative. When Mother Nature finally took over, the sudden onset of testosterone created an irresistible urge to play the "aggressive" 94.bxc5. But 94.bxc5 dissipates most of White's advantage; at d=23 Critter evaluates the position after 94.bxc4 at [+0.41] following 94...Nxc5 95.Nxc5 bxc5 96.f4 Rxb2 97.Rxb2 f6 98.g5 Ng8 99.Qb1 Bb6 100.f5 Rb8 101.h5 fxg5 102.hxg6+ Kg7 103.Kg3 Nf6 104.Qd1 Ba5 105.Rxb8 Qxb8 106.Qc2 Bd7 107.Bc1 Qd8 108.Kf3 Qc8 109.Ne3 h5 110.Nd1 g4+ 111.Kg3 Be1+ 112.Kg2. Aaah, the impetuousness of youth!

Fortunately he was able to release his inner tensions by 94.bxc5. I'm afraid to think of the consequences had he not been able to do so and chose other means to release his inner tensions. Something similar happened to me except at a later age. Since I didn't learn the game until I was 11 or 12 the puberty-inhibiting effects of chess were not as strong, and neither was I as strong a player as Rogoff. So my inner tension release was not as urgent nor as well documented for others to see at a much later date.

Williams was older than Rogoff at the time this game was played, at least 19 years old, and the effects of a possibly-delayed puberty had subsided, stiff upper lip notwithstanding (he was born in Wales). But I suspect that he was disappointed at Rogoff's breaking the possibly prearranged agreement to set a record for the longest non-capture came that would never be broken due to lack of interest. He might even have described 94.bxc5 out loud as a "bitter disappointment", predating Fischer's similar comment after R. Byrne resigned their game in the 1963 US Chess Championship, and possibly inspiring it. As it was, a longest non-capture record-breaking attempt is probably achievable, should two players be sufficiently motivated to attempt to do so, perhaps under the influence of some super-Sofia rules being in effect.

So there. I think that this is the most boring post ever at chessgames.com, certainly the most boring post I've ever done (and that's saying a lot). But others are welcomed and encouraged to try to create an even more boring post, but I doubt that anyone will succeed.

Feb-05-13
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  AylerKupp: <Phony Benoni> I think that Huebner vs K Rogoff, 1972 shows the maturation of Rogoff's style, a mere 3 years after this game with Williams. Rogoff managed to enforce a draw after only 12 moves instead of the 106 moves he needed in this game with Williams. Of course, by that time the effects of delayed puberty had subsided, so Rogoff was able to initiate captures as early as 5.Qxd7.
Feb-05-13
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  perfidious: <AylerKupp> Here is another highly entertaining draw: Keene vs D W Anderton, 1977.
Feb-05-13  Marmot PFL: Maybe nobody got this far into the game, but white offers a knight sacrifice on move 50, which black (no doubt correctly) declines (50 Nf5 gf 51 gf Nf6 52 Bxh6 etc). So then 50...Kh7 (good move) 51 Bf2?!, now if 51...gf 52 gf Nf6 where is the attack?
Feb-05-13  Marmot PFL: Or first 52...Bg5 53 Be3 Bxe3 54 Qxe3 Nf6 then Qh8, Rg8 and black's extra piece should eventually win.
Feb-05-13  tivrfoa: <RookFile: <AylerKupp: Why are games like this played? >

I'll tell you why. A way to win a game of chess is to do nothing, and wait for the opponent to make a mistake or overextend himself.

The problem is, if both players do nothing, you get this.> kkkkkkkkkk this game was really boring ...

Feb-05-13  King Radio: The position after white's 68th move is hilarious. This is a classic even Morphy would have been proud to have played.
Feb-05-13  Jim Bartle: One pair of pieces has been exchanged, but here's a computer-human game where nothing happens for 60 moves starting about move 18: Junior vs Ponomariov, 2005
Feb-05-13  jovack: awful finish and boring game...

play it out you wussies.

Feb-05-13  David2009: Mysteriously the players agreed a draw when White can win a Pawn starting 107.Qxa5 Bxa5 108.Bxh6. Perhaps external factors contributed to the premature end of this hard-fought struggle. Here's the final position:


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Feb-05-13
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  Gilmoy: After this game, FIFA mandated that end-of-round matches be played simultaneously ...
Feb-05-13
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  AylerKupp: <perfidious> Thanks, I hadn't seen that one. It's a good one and I am still laughing. But it must have been one of Keene's slightly off days since White could have achieved the same result after 8.Qxh8 Nxh8 9.Nf6+ etc. or after 9.Qxh8 Nxh8 9.Ng8+ etc. Since it was a simul, maybe Keene needed two more trips around the table to make the final decision to go for the draw this way. So would it then be appropriate to consider both 8.Nf6+ and 9.Ng8+ as zwischenzugs?
Feb-05-13  BlackSheep: Worst GOTD everrr!
Feb-05-13
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  FSR: I don't understand 103...Kg8?, hanging the h-pawn.
Feb-06-13
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  Phony Benoni: <FSR> Don't worry about it. This is economics. Nobody understands economics.
Feb-06-13
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  Gilmoy: <Phony Benoni: Nobody understands economics.> The material deficit, my fanny!
Jan-28-14  kontoleon: 94 moves to take a pawn!!! Maybe the record...
Jun-12-14
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  Benzol: In a post with this game E M Green vs K Rogoff, 1969 <whiteshark> says that the above game is reputed to have carried on until move 221!? Looks like the players had nothing better to do after the game.
Nov-14-14  theodosius: Stockfish 5 analysis.

White maintains opening advantage until 13. Rg1 loses about .6 for white (O-O was better).

16...Bf6? lost .25 (Nec7)
18. Bg5 lost it back (Bxg7)
20...Kh8? lost .75 (Nec7 again)
21. Bd3 gave .5 back (h4)
21...Nf6 lost .8 (to 1.5, Qe7)
23. Rb1 loses .5 (f3) but played it a move later gaining it back

Throughout the 20s after this, SF wants White to play h4, and black to play Bf6/Nc7. The analysis swings widely as these giants ignore these developing moves.

SF then wants white to move Qd7. Adding that to 28...Qe7, it seems that both players wasted a move. White is rated +1.58 with this continuation.

28. h4 h6 29. Kf2 Kh7 30. h5 b6 31. Kg2 Ne7 32. Rh1 g5 33. b4 Kg8 34. Nf5 Nxf5 35. exf5 cxb4

With 32. Qg2, white loses .75 and has descended into draw territory (Qd2, retains about a pawn advantage).

33...Bf6 undevelops his bishop for no reason, when SF wants Nc7. Black moves 34...Nc7 after 20 moves of SF's pleading!

35. Qf1 is a dead draw. At this point, SF wants b4 and Kg2 for white and Bg5 for black for several moves.

39...Bh4 is another major blunder, losing a theoretical pawn (Bxe3). The next move, black undevelops his bishop again to Bf6. At this point White is +2.1 with a powerful kingside continuation:

41. g5 Bg7 42. h4 f6 43. h5 gxh5 44. Nxh5 fxg5 45. Bxg5 Qf7 46. Nxg7 Qxg7 47. Qh2 Qf7 48. Be2 Nc7 49. b4 b6 50. Rh1 Rf8 51. bxc5 bxc5

But why would white want to do that? 41. Rb2?

Throughout the 40s, it's clear that black's bishop should have stayed at h4 instead of waltzing around. 44. Na2 lost a "grim" .7 (Kg2), but black's bishop wastes time. SF would have white develop Kg2 and pawn break f4.

50. Nf5 moves white back to draw territory (Nc3).

Then 51. Bf2? (a clear blunder per SF) gives black his first fleeting chance at a win -.5 (Nc3), which is squandered by ...Bg5 (gxf5).

53...Be7 (again undeveloping his dark bishop) puts white a pawn up (Bf4).

Through the rest of the 50s, SF wants to initially expand on the kingside with h5 and a rook on the h file, but after redirecting a rook to the b file continues its desire to get it's rim knight to c3.

Black continues to waste moves on the dark-square bishop, instead of moving knight to f6 as SF would like.

Seesaw continues through the 60s. SF has been demanding Nc3 nearly ever one of the last 25 moves.

Black, on the other hand, had multiple development options, Ne7, h5, cxb4, which it throws away for futile bishop moves. It appears knights are more valuable to SF in these positions.

73. Nc3. After 30 moves.

78. Ba4 was a -1 point error (Kg1), but ...Bc8 was worse (cxb4) as white's 79. Bc6 could force a white passed d pawn, giving white a 1.5 advantage in SF. White declined 80. Bxb7, returning to business as usual.

90...Na6 is a bad idea for black, losing .7 (Nf6), and again white must make a combative g5 to capitalize, but instead undevelops it's knight to a2.

93...Ne7 blocks the correct Be7, giving a +2 to white. SF would like white to respond with f4, which appears to be one of white's key moves in controlling the board.

<AylerKupp>'s megapost gloriously expounds on the tragedy of white's first capture, and SF concurs with his assessment.

Trading of the rooks began white's descent to a draw, SF attempted to avoid this with Nb3 or Ne2. 99. Bc2 would have robbed white's minor advantage if ...Bxc2.

SF doesn't say 104. Bc6? is a blunder, though what else would you call ignoring a free pawn? The pawn stays in play for white until the draw.

Many here have speculated on possible continuations (<David2009> is right on) after 106...Qa5, so I will not.

In general, both sides ignored attacking chances, white on the kingside and black on the queenside. I hope you enjoyed reading this as much as I have enjoyed writing and analyzing it.

Mar-26-15
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  Alex Schindler: Best game title ever. And the kibitzing is as funny as the game!
Dec-08-15
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  Domdaniel: Yeah, this is fun. I've had games go 30 moves without a capture, but 90+ is a horse of a different colour. Every time a piece confronts an enemy unit, one of them retreats. Hilarious? Kinda. A pisstake? That too. A metaphor for economic theory? Whaaat?!
Dec-08-15
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  Domdaniel: <AylerKupp> I should point out that the stiff upper lip (Lippus Rigidus) is an English trait, not a British one. It is rare in Wales, unknown in Scotland, impossible in Ireland.

It is likely that Williams had flexible lips.

Jul-31-16  Whitehat1963: Riveting stuff! If it weren't a draw, this would make such a fantastic game for Guess-the-Move. Or not.
Sep-13-19  Chesgambit: low rated game
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