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Alexander Grischuk vs Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
World Championship Candidates (2018), Berlin GER, rd 7, Mar-18
Queen's Gambit Declined: Ragozin Defense (D38)  ·  1/2-1/2


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  Marmot PFL: Guess we will switch to Aronian-Caruana soon than.
Mar-18-18  chessic eric: Curious
Mar-18-18  WorstPlayerEver: These guys need a rest day.
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  whiteshark: Shakh has called the arbiter...
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  Count Wedgemore: An early draw between these two exciting and enterprising players is a huge disappointment, I'd say.
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Eric,

Yes curious but I cannot see the Lev - Fab game. Maybe Shak (who assume can see the game) thinks Lev is on a winner and if so his point here puts him in the lead.

Mar-18-18  chessic eric: <Sally> Makes perfect sense, and a version of a double rest day to boot.
Mar-18-18  technical draw: Caruana blew his advantage.
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  ChessHigherCat: Qd6 seems like the only reasonable way to protect g4, because if Rg8 Qh7
Mar-18-18  Ulhumbrus: The Aronian - Caruana game looks interesting. White has sacrificed two pawns for what the computer says is insufficient compensation but the computer suggests as well that Black may lose if he makes a single mistake in trying to defend the attack.
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  HeMateMe: lazy people.
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: 9...Nc6 was not in the database (though the game could have transposed into R Jain vs M P Townsend, 2012. Wondering if GMs have a secret stash of "opening perpetual draws" for use when they're feeling too tired to play.
Mar-18-18  Ulhumbrus: <> You may wish to consider showing the Aronian- Caruana game.
Mar-18-18  Jack Kerouac: No guts. No glory. Disappointing display of lack of fighting. There is plenty of play in this game.
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  morfishine: Yikes, I leave to pick up some milk, return home, and they drew after 16 moves???

I thought this was the candidates, not the cannotidates


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  Penguincw: < Mar-17-18 Penguincw: ... I predict a decisive result. I also predict a blunder in this game. >

Well I was wrong. I guess both players are too hung over from Mar/17.

Maybe this is why in every live game I always predict a draw.

Mar-18-18  Justin796: Lame.
Mar-18-18  starry2013: Both players took some quick draws in the grand prix series recently. So they aren't averse to it if they think it suits them.
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  Richard Taylor: < morfishine: I once won a game brilliantly on move 54> !! Great!! You avoided, the number between say 2 and 67 except 54. The player who is to win on 54 will win...if not reaching the other unmentionable number. Incredible timing!
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  Richard Taylor: <rgr459: Sasha Grischuk is so dashing!> And you are in love? Or is it just..well, the other thing, whatever it is, when people take their clothes off and do strange things?
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  Richard Taylor: <hoodrobin: <Richard Taylor> I understand you know something about fingers and even more about Mr President. Thanks for sharing.>

Before I went mad I knew everything.

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  Richard Taylor: I'd have to say that this kind of draw is disappointing.

I can understand Marmedyarov.

Grishuk refused to say it as such, but he was clearly annoyed by the way he was forced into a draw. Although maybe he could have diverged a bit earlier to avoid it and keep the game going?

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  Richard Taylor: I know it looks as though I am "hogging" but I come on at a time when I think most members are all asleep, so my apologies...

My comment also would be that the draws of many players are from long fighting games or some after a reasonable time drift into a draw. But, whether this one is Marmedyarov's fault or not, this isn't one of those fascinating games that end in a draw...This is what takes us right back to the age of "Grandmaster Draws"...

Look at Aronian, he rejects moves he know will lead to quiet waters, he wants an interesting game almost more than a win...[e.g. against Caruana when he lost but he showed balls]

Mar-19-18  paavoh: @<An Englishman> <Wondering if GMs have a secret stash of "opening perpetual draws" for use when they're feeling too tired to play.>

You must be right, and I suspect they are even trading these "gems". Why not?

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  perfidious: Case in point: Nunn vs Speelman, 1980.

Last round game, which I believe gave Speelman a GM norm into the bargain.

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