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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Here, again today Zappa won the game against Crafty, now with 9.5/10 with only one game to go Zappa is the winner of the tournament convincingly. [Event "World Computer Chess Championship"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.08.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Zappa"]
[Black "Crafty"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "QGD semi-Slav: Stoltz variation"]
[ECO "D45"]
[NIC "SL.08"]
[Time "11:57:49"]
[TimeControl "7200+0"]
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. g4 Bb4 8.
Bd2 Qe7 9. Rg1 Bxc3 10. Bxc3 Ne4 11. O-O-O Nxc3 12. Qxc3 O-O 13. Bd3 c5 14.
Kb1 cxd4 15. Qxd4 dxc4 16. Qxc4 Nc5 17. Bc2 b5 18. Qf4 Bb7 19. g5 Bxf3 20.
Qxf3 Rac8 21. Rd4 g6 22. h4 Nd7 23. Rgd1 Nb6 24. Be4 Nc4 25. Qe2 e5 26. Rd5
a6 27. Ka1 Qb4 28. Bb1 Rc7 29. Rd8 Rc8 30. R8d7 Na5 31. h5 Qa4 32. R7d3 Rc6
33. f4 exf4 34. hxg6 fxg6 35. exf4 Qxf4 36. Rd7 Qxg5 37. Qe1 b4 38. Qxb4 Rc5
39. Qa3 Qh5 40. Qe3 Re5 41. Qc3 Rfe8 42. a3 Qg5 43. Re1 Qf6 44. Rxe5 Qxe5
45. Ba2+ Kh8 46. Rd8 White wins 1-0 |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Only Fute got a draw from Zappa and Fute lost every game with everybody else. Funny. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Fruit beats Junior!
And this is a single processor against 4-way Opteron 2.2, unbelievable.[Event "World Computer Chess Championship"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.08.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Junior"]
[Black "Fruit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Opening "Sicilian defense"]
[ECO "B41"]
[NIC "SI.41"]
[Time "11:58:19"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Nb3 Bb6 6. Nc3 Ne7 7. Bf4 d5 8.
exd5 exd5 9. Qh5 Be6 10. O-O-O O-O 11. Bg5 Nbc6 12. Bd3 h6 13. Bxh6 gxh6 14.
Qxh6 Bf5 15. Bxf5 Nxf5 16. Qf4 Qf6 17. g4 Qh6 18. g5 Qg6 19. h4 Nce7 20. h5
Qd6 21. Qf3 Rfd8 22. Kb1 Rac8 23. h6 Rc4 24. Nxd5 Nxd5 25. Qxf5 Rf4 26. Qd3
Rxf2 27. Rde1 Qc6 28. Nd4 Qg6 29. h7+ Kh8 30. Qc4 Nc7 31. Nb3 Qxg5 32. Nc1
f6 33. Nd3 Rg2 34. a3 Nd5 35. Qe4 Qg6 36. Qf3 Rg4 37. Rh3 Bd4 38. Ka2 b5 39.
Kb1 f5 40. Qh1 Qc6 41. Ne5 Bxe5 42. Rxe5 b4 43. Qe1 Rg2 44. Qc1 ♗lack wins
0-1
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Shredder and Junior, which were the last two winners were defeated by both Zappa and Fruit. Zappa will win the tournament, Fruit will place second, both are amateur engines.
Fruit played on a single 2.4 GHz athlon processor, Zappa is on 2x2.2 dual cores (4 cores) machine. The best hadrware on the tournament was by Crafty. Then Shredder, then Zappa and Junior. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Standings after 10 rounds, one more to go:
1 Zappa 9.5
2 Fruit 7.5
3-5 Junior Shredder Sjeng all 6.5
6 Crafty 6
7 Diep 5.5
8 Jonny 4.5
9 Baron 3
10-11 IsiChess TCB all 2
12 Fute 0.5
Interesting enough, all the games were decided today, and this chess is on higher level than your standard supertournaments. Talking about "reasonable" draws. |
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Aug-20-05
 | | BishopBerkeley: <csmath> I think this is a very good result for Chess in general and for Computer Chess in particular for the following reasons: 1) Other things being equal, the more strong engines there are, the better: the more likely they are to find innovative ways of advancing Chess theory; the less likely they are to become stuck in "theoretical quagmires". 2) It's wonderful to see freeware engines win! This may encourage other non-professional developers in their efforts to develop new engines. The development community doesn't have to cede the top spots to the "heavies" with [presumably] deep[er] pockets. It's interesting that Zappa has not only won, but won BIG! I mean, if a human being were to achieve numbers like this in open competition among the strongest players, we would rightly be astounded! Pending the last game, this is a sweep by any standard, Paul Morphy -like in scope! Of course, as a vegetarian, I am particulary pleased to see that Fruit has done so well (as I am generally pleased to see Peter Leko do well, who is often said to be vegetarian.) I hope we will not only have a Zappa message board soon, but also a Fruit message board. All quite exciting! An influx of new and amazing "talent"! (: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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Aug-20-05
| | BishopBerkeley: Should we weep for humanity if the gap between human Chess talent and computer Chess talent grows wider and wider in favor of computers? Not at all, I say!
Though I am not at all a fan of "fighting sports", I think the following analogy presents itself. Human Chess will come to be regarded as something like boxing or wrestling, whereas Computer Chess will come to be regarded as something like a gladiator competition. In one kind of fighting sport, there are no weapons; in the other there are weapons. Computer Chess is really Human+Computer Chess, "Chess with weapons", and it will never be otherwise. There will always be a human individual or team developing the system (or the system that develops the system). Will people lose interest in Human Chess?
Not a chance!
[If I may quote an earlier post of mine on the Zsuzsa Polgar message board]: Even if there were a Flawless Chessplaying Supercomputer that had defeated every human being in every game played against it over many centuries, that wouldn't keep human beings from playing against one another. Consider... An inexpensive, poorly-maintained automobile that can manage 60 miles per hour can outrun the fastest human being living (easily). There are many millions of such automobiles (including several in front of my next door neighbors house), yet this does not in any way diminish the thrill of one human being running a race against another. Even so, if we had many millions of computer machines that could play Chess "perfectly", that would in no way diminish the excitement and challenge of one person playing against another. [But will human players just become "openings zombies", memorizing long trees of openings from the best computers?] The number of possible openings combinations in Chess is so large, that even if we had The Definitive Book of Perfect Chess Openings compiled by The Flawless Chessplaying Computer mentioned above, focusing ones Chess study time on openings would still be a pretty poor way to become a strong human player, in my humble opinion. A certain amount of time spent on openings is fine, but I have to think that focusing on strategy, tactics, and positional concepts will generally yield a much better result, even at the highest levels of play. Respected estimates of the number of possible board positions in the first 40 moves of a Chess game range from 10^40 to 10^120. That's from 1 followed by 40 zeroes to 1 followed by 120 zeroes: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Chess....
To give a sense of how big the number 10^120 is, typical intelligent estimates of the number of particles in the observable universe tend to fall in the neighborhood of 10^80. So, if we take the number of particles in the observable universe according to this estimate and multiply it by 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-
(!!!) we get a good approximation of the number of possible positions in the first 40 moves of Chess, according to one widely-respected estimate: http://www.varatek.com/scott/bnum.h...
Just a few thoughts!
(: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
[Quotes from User Profile: BishopBerkeley are used with permission.] |
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| Aug-20-05 | | Greatful Fred: <(: Bishop Berkeley :)
> In Prey, Michael Creighton thinks those little nono fellows might become sefl replicating robots and take over--you are using same at your workplace? |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: Some games on the tournament were masterpieces, in particular a game between Zappa and Junior. It is a brilliant tactical game. Also the Dragon that Zappa destroyed Shredder is a technically perfect game. Fruit played very well. I am using that engine and I know already how good it is. Zappa is amateur engine but it is not freeware, I mean the version competing on WCCC is not avaliable. I believe we shall soon see it in retail, this is a great result. |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: This is the game between Shredder and Zappa played earlier today. After the move 15 I thought the game is pretty much even and that white might even have some attack but it was not to be. [Event "World Computer Chess Championship"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.08.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Shredder(C)"]
[Black "Zappa(C)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Opening "Sicilian: dragon, Yugoslav attack, Rauser variation"]
[ECO "B76"]
[NIC "SI.17"]
[Time "06:04:22"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8.
Qd2 Nc6 9. O-O-O d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Nxd5 cxd5 13. Bh6 Qc7
14. Bxg7 Kxg7 15. h4 h5 16. Re1 Rb8 17. g4 hxg4 18. h5 Qb6 19. c3 Rh8 20.
fxg4 Bxg4 21. h6+ Kf8 22. b3 Rc8 23. Kb2 d4 24. c4 Bf5 25. Bd3 Bxd3 26. Qxd3
Qd6 27. Qd2 Rh7 28. Qg5 f5 29. Ref1 Rc5 30. Qg2 Kf7 31. Rf2 Qf6 32. Rff1 a5
33. Qa8 g5 34. Kc2 Re5 35. Kc1 g4 36. Kd1 Rh8 37. Qg2 d3 38. Qf2 a4 39. Qh4
Re2 40. Qxf6+ exf6 41. b4 Rxa2 ♗lack wins 0-1
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| Aug-20-05 | | Montreal1666: <csmath> What is the website for the games? |
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| Aug-20-05 | | csmath: http://www.ru.is/wccc05/ |
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| Aug-21-05 | | csmath: Today 6 AM EST, there is the last round, the most interesting match is Shredder-Junior though neither has any chance for the title, still this is the game of the day.
Chessbase and ICC both will feature it live.
This is the best chess there is currently and the strongest tournament ever played on this planet. |
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Aug-21-05
| | BishopBerkeley: Zappa is the new World Computer Chess Champion! Yay!! And Fruit came in #2!! http://www.ru.is/wccc05/default.asp... And Shredder (Computer) retained the Speed Chess crown. (It also defeated Junior (Computer) in their head-to-head match-up). All very exciting!
Congratulations to all winners and all participants in the 13th WORLD COMPUTER CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP at Reykjavik University in Iceland! (: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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| Aug-21-05 | | notyetagm: Zappa +10 =1 -0!!!! |
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| Aug-21-05 | | csmath: Shredder got Junior right in the opening, there was no chance for Junior, fell into a trap. Final standings: 1 10.5 Zappa
2 8.5 Fruit
3-4 7.5 Shredder Sjeng
5-6 6.5 Crafty Junior
7 5.5 Diep
8 4.5 Jonny
9 4.0 Baron
10 2.5 IsiChess
11 2.0 TCB
12 0.5 Fute
Fantastic win for Zappa, only one draw and beating everybody else. Today's game against Diep was quite humorous. Dipe resigned just before Zappa was to take his only two remaining pawns with completely open king and queens and rooks still on the board: [Event "World Computer Chess Championship"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.08.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Diep(C)"]
[Black "Zappa(C)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Opening "Nimzo-Indian: classical, Pirc variation"]
[ECO "E39"]
[NIC "NI.21"]
[Time "06:13:52"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 c5 5. dxc5 O-O 6. a3 Bxc5 7. Nf3 b6 8.
Bf4 Bb7 9. Rd1 Nc6 10. b4 Be7 11. e4 Rc8 12. Bd3 Nh5 13. Be3 Qc7 14. O-O Nf6
15. h3 Rfd8 16. Nb5 Qb8 17. e5 Nxe5 18. Nxe5 Qxe5 19. Nxa7 Bd6 20. g3 Qh5
21. f3 Ra8 22. Bxb6 Bxg3 23. Nb5 Qxh3 24. Qg2 Qh4 25. Bxd8 Rxd8 26. Rd2 h5
27. Re2 Ng4 28. Qh1 Qg5 29. Be4 Bxe4 30. fxe4 Rc8 31. Nd4 Rxc4 32. Nf3 Qb5
33. a4 Qb6+ 34. Kg2 Bc7 35. Rc1 Rxe4 36. Qe1 Rf4 37. Rc5 Rxf3 38. Rxc7 Rb3
39. Rc3 ♗lack wins 0-1
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Aug-21-05
 | | WannaBe: That's it, I am going to return my Shredder and buy a Zappa! |
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| Aug-21-05 | | dac1990: <Wannabe> If you're going to get rid of Shredder, get Fritz instead. |
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Aug-21-05
| | WannaBe: <dac1990> I had fritz8 before, then I 'upgraded/bought/changed' to S-9. :-) |
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| Aug-21-05 | | csmath: Shredder is still better than Fritz. Zappa is not a retail engine and this program uses SMP meaning to have the advantage you need more than one processor/core on you computer. Nobody has truly tested it in the new version. This is the first serious competition. |
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| Aug-21-05 | | csmath: Interesting enough the percetange of draws is less than 25%. Of course there was no GM draws though these machines are easily stronger than GMs. I counted 16 draws in 66 games. By the way, earlier this year Zappa has beaten Ehlvest 3-1 (+2, =2), the way it was played Ehlvest had no chance to a countergame in any of the games and one draw was given to him by the operator in the position where the program charted slight advantage. I seriously doubt Ehlvest would have been able to draw OTB. |
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| Aug-29-05 | | refutor: hard to believe that futé's only half point was the only half point that zappa gave up |
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| Sep-18-05 | | you vs yourself: Suggested caption: I'm a machine. I don't have a brain, seriously. |
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Sep-24-05
| | BishopBerkeley: I just played the following blitz game against Shredder 8 in its "Handicap and Fun" mode (the only mode in which I stand a chance!) Though neither of us played particularly well (the game was played while waiting for a phone call), I present the game here only because I found the unfortunate quandary of Black's King Rook amusing three moves after playing 29...Rg4. The handicap settings for this game were: "Handicap and Fun", "Tit-for-tat algorithm", "Playing Strength" raised to 2350 (though it clearly wasn't playing at that Elo level!); the program settings were: "Shredder 8" engine, Hashtable size: 384 MB, "Permanent Brain" and "Tablebases" selected. The program was running on a 2.0 GHz Pentium machine with minimal background processes running (the CPU never topped out during the game). Each side was given 15 minutes, with no increment. [Event "Handicap and Fun"]
[Site "Bishop Berkeley's Chess Emporium"]
[Date "2005.09.23"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Bishop Berkeley"]
[Black "Shredder 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D20"]
[PlyCount "91"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e3 e6 4. Bxc4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Bd2 Bxc3 7. Bxc3 Ne4 8.
Bb4 Qh4 9. Qf3 Nc6 10. Ba3 Ng5 11. Qe2 a5 12. Nf3 Nxf3+ 13. Qxf3 f6 14. Bb5 Bd7
15. Rc1 O-O-O 16. O-O e5 17. Bxc6 Bxc6 18. Qf5+ Bd7 19. Qc2 Bc6 20. dxe5 Kb8
21. exf6 gxf6 22. Qf5 Rd5 23. Qf4 Qxf4 24. exf4 Rd2 25. Rfd1 Rxd1+ 26. Rxd1 f5
27. Be7 b5 28. Bf6 Rg8 29. g3 Rg4 30. h4 Bf3 31. Rd3 Bc6 32. Bg5 Be4 33. Rd7 h5
34. Rh7 Bb1 35. a3 c5 36. Rxh5 Kc7 37. Rh6 a4 38. Re6 b4 39. axb4 cxb4 40. Ra6
Bc2 41. h5 Bd1 42. h6 a3 43. bxa3 Be2 44. Ra4 b3 45. Rb4 Rxg5 46. fxg5 1-0 A silly game in some ways, but fun!
(: ♗ Bishop Berkeley ♗ :)
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| Sep-24-05 | | ckr: 32.Bg5! cages the black rook, 37.Rh6 keeps the King out of the fray and shredder has a light squared bishop that is useless. GG, but isn't it beneath a Bishop to mop up? |
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